shakahislop
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but nothing works like that. everything gets nicked. its not just the internet its just how culture has worked for i don't know a hundred years. it's a recurring tragedy. probably everyone should know that by now.
I see where you're coming from, but nobody is born a hipster. It's a subculture-slash-aesthetic, isn't it? Like in decades past you had mods and soul boys and whatever (and in fact just earlier iterations of hipsters). So to include people who identify as non-binary sounds quite close to a Biscuity (edit: and Gus-ish) sort of position that being gender-nonconforming in general is just a pose, or a look, or something people do to be cool and part of the in-crowd.what came after the hipsters? that's something that's been going through my head recently. it's the social justice warriors and that unnamed world i think. the nonbinary and so on. i don't have the name for it. i think that's the successor anyway. so much more hard edged and serious than hipsters. much more commited. more like the punks and the hippies; there's a programme
the potent moments are usually before these things have proper names. i'm sure its been said on here before. wot u call it and so on.
fuck have i accidentally summoned these debates out of their quarantined threads. delete it all. i don't want to talk about that. you're right btw tea it does sound like thatI see where you're coming from, but nobody is born a hipster. It's a subculture-slash-aesthetic, isn't it? Like in decades past you had mods and soul boys and whatever (and in fact just earlier iterations of hipsters). So to include people who identify as non-binary sounds quite close to a Biscuity sort of position that being gender-nonconforming in general is just a pose, or a look, or something people do to be cool and part of the in-crowd.
Yeah, sure, I getcha.forgetting that offhand comment about nonbinary people etc. there is something that's emerged no, that fits into the us alt subculture continuum, that succeeds hipsterdom (which is dead and buried).
but nothing works like that. everything gets nicked. its not just the internet its just how culture has worked for i don't know a hundred years. it's a recurring tragedy. probably everyone should know that by now.
one thing i've noticed about the nyc club world is that the good ones don't use the language of subgenres. they go out of their way to find any other way to describe what kind of music is going to be on, all these flowery paragraphs. but beyond 'house' or 'techno' they won't say anything specific. it means i don't have the vocabulary either coz there's no-one to learn it. seems good.The categorisation impulse seems almost pathological. I don't sense much joy in it. Just this ravenous appetite for corralling everything in sight.
I remember an extremely try-hard guy called comelately who used to post here (the one who used to go to 'sex club' with his girlfriend) trying to convince me that completely innocuous hobbies were actually really bad and somehow injurious to others in a way he was curiously unable to articulate in any detail.I'm sure those memes about specific types of people do a number on the people who make them as much as anyone else.