We Are All Willing On The Catastrophe

[shakahislop]

but nothing works like that. everything gets nicked. its not just the internet its just how culture has worked for i don't know a hundred years. it's a recurring tragedy. probably everyone should know that by now.

 

[shakahislop]

what came after the hipsters? that's something that's been going through my head recently. it's the social justice warriors and that unnamed world i think. the nonbinary and so on. i don't have the name for it. i think that's the successor anyway. so much more hard edged and serious than hipsters. much more commited. more like the punks and the hippies; there's a programme

the potent moments are usually before these things have proper names. i'm sure its been said on here before. wot u call it and so on.

 

[Mr. Tea]

what came after the hipsters? that's something that's been going through my head recently. it's the social justice warriors and that unnamed world i think. the nonbinary and so on. i don't have the name for it. i think that's the successor anyway. so much more hard edged and serious than hipsters. much more commited. more like the punks and the hippies; there's a programme

the potent moments are usually before these things have proper names. i'm sure its been said on here before. wot u call it and so on.

I see where you're coming from, but nobody is born a hipster. It's a subculture-slash-aesthetic, isn't it? Like in decades past you had mods and soul boys and whatever (and in fact just earlier iterations of hipsters). So to include people who identify as non-binary sounds quite close to a Biscuity (edit: and Gus-ish) sort of position that being gender-nonconforming in general is just a pose, or a look, or something people do to be cool and part of the in-crowd.

 

[shakahislop]

I see where you're coming from, but nobody is born a hipster. It's a subculture-slash-aesthetic, isn't it? Like in decades past you had mods and soul boys and whatever (and in fact just earlier iterations of hipsters). So to include people who identify as non-binary sounds quite close to a Biscuity sort of position that being gender-nonconforming in general is just a pose, or a look, or something people do to be cool and part of the in-crowd.

fuck have i accidentally summoned these debates out of their quarantined threads. delete it all. i don't want to talk about that. you're right btw tea it does sound like that

 

[shakahislop]

forgetting that offhand comment about nonbinary people etc. there is something that's emerged no, that fits into the us alt subculture continuum, that succeeds hipsterdom (which is dead and buried).

 

[Mr. Tea]

forgetting that offhand comment about nonbinary people etc. there is something that's emerged no, that fits into the us alt subculture continuum, that succeeds hipsterdom (which is dead and buried).

Yeah, sure, I getcha.

 

[pattycakes_]

but nothing works like that. everything gets nicked. its not just the internet its just how culture has worked for i don't know a hundred years. it's a recurring tragedy. probably everyone should know that by now.

The net spread it further and wider and sped up the process hundred-fold though. Hipsterism, at its core was simply cherry picking signifiers with the infinite archive as ref material. Was never so easy to access all of that at once. All aesthetics. No credo.

Nothing of real substance has come along since because nothing gets time to lay any proper roots anymore. No time to fortify itself on its own turf. Everything gets swallowed up as soon as the first sparks fly and lives out it's lifespan over a few months if not weeks.

 

[version]

The categorisation impulse seems almost pathological. I don't sense much joy in it. Just this ravenous appetite for corralling everything in sight.

 

[version]

I'm sure those memes about specific types of people do a number on the people who make them as much as anyone else.

 

[shakahislop]

The categorisation impulse seems almost pathological. I don't sense much joy in it. Just this ravenous appetite for corralling everything in sight.

one thing i've noticed about the nyc club world is that the good ones don't use the language of subgenres. they go out of their way to find any other way to describe what kind of music is going to be on, all these flowery paragraphs. but beyond 'house' or 'techno' they won't say anything specific. it means i don't have the vocabulary either coz there's no-one to learn it. seems good.

 

[shakahislop]

Basement (the premier techno club in the city) next weekend:

Mord celebrates a decade of pure destruction. The Dutch label is an essential, even era-defining bastion for modern techno. In a field where impact and scale can be prioritized at the expense of the music, Mord has consistently fostered a positively explosive sound that hits with unmistakable personality and loads of hard-edged funk. They’ve achieved this by avoiding cookie-cutter curation and pushing each of their artists to stand out on their own merits, making them a rare buy-on-sight label. Owner Bas Mooy headlines. Drawing on the heavy, heaving energy of his hometown of Rotterdam, his sets unsurprisingly pulsate with psychotic energy and sizzle an industrial afterburn. Quelza draws on the old school. His sets keep the vibes taut, but in his productions he zooms out and gazes on wider panoramas. A hard-edged producer who isn’t afraid to stretch into the cinematic and effusive, Quelza is a standout from the younger generation who is already being recognized by scene stalwarts. Antenes is one of NY’s finest. A true techno head with decades behind the booth, she brings a level of craft and precision as well as a depth of knowledge that cannot be fast tracked. Her sound leans into the raw physicality of hardware synths, paying tribute to the old gods while still sounding years ahead of the pack.

 

[shakahislop]

Nowadays this weekend, refraining from naming anything aside from gqom (bit pissed that i'm out of town, i'd like to see dj lag)

Nowadays resident and Kindergarten mainstay Ayesha is known for delivering high definition club sounds in her work as both a DJ and producer. Joining her on this night is DJ Lag, the pioneering artist often credited with bringing South Africa's gqom sound to the global stage, and cry$cross, a Brooklyn-based DJ who excels at melding a variety of influences into a high-energy, percussion-forward style.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I'm sure those memes about specific types of people do a number on the people who make them as much as anyone else.

I remember an extremely try-hard guy called comelately who used to post here (the one who used to go to 'sex club' with his girlfriend) trying to convince me that completely innocuous hobbies were actually really bad and somehow injurious to others in a way he was curiously unable to articulate in any detail.