Benny Bunter

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I'm off to bed, got work tomorrow. I will leave you with a prayer by Santa Teresa:

Let nothing disturb thee,
Nothing affright thee;
All things are passing;
God never changeth;
Patient endurance
Attaineth to all things;
Who God possesseth
In nothing is wanting;
Alone God sufficeth.


Enjoy your father cigar 🙏
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
i wanted to ask all of yours opinions about a prynne poem i stumbled upon the other day that someone claimed was just about the banal activity of getting up in the morning. but now i don't know any more where i read that or what poem it was, does anyone know which one i mean?
 

luka

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AI generated prynne commentary here


Analysis (ai): This poem explores themes of time, desire, and loss. The speaker reflects on a past relationship, recalling the "smell of diesel oil on the road" and "the friends there are." The poem's language is fragmented and elliptical, with a focus on precise imagery.
Compared to Prynne's earlier works, this poem exhibits a shift towards a more lyrical style, while retaining his characteristic attention to detail and language. It also reflects the changing poetic landscape of the 1980s, where experimental forms and language were prevalent.
The poem's title, "From end to end," suggests a journey or transition. The speaker's desire is portrayed as "infinite" and "longer than the infinite," but it is also "broken" and "crossed." The poem concludes with a sense of loss and farewell, as the speaker reflects on the broken relationship and the passage of time
 

luka

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mentions our cartoon poem bt not especally insightful about it
 

luka

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this is probly true tho

So often at the core of a dense set of such weaving — usually a sequence of poems or agglomeration of “titles” under an indicator title with epigrams — is a “simple” experience or set of experiences: an observation of a bird, the coming across a plate in a Renaissance text, the simple complexity of the Geneva Bible, which then radiate into contemporary but also broadly historic concerns. The mixing of micro and macro happens on so many different levels, and the (re)grammar(ing) of expression becomes pivotal to unfolding dense works as much as more “playful” rhyming (even nursery-rhymish) works such as Snooty Tipoffs (2021), a truly magnificent unweaving of pastoral motifs and their crooks and spurs.
 

Benny Bunter

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Yeah, I assume that a poem has to start somewhere in the poet's mind, however far it ranges and abstracts out from there, so if you can figure out what that initial springing off point might be, then you potentially have a way in to the poem. With Cartoon we had it relatively easy with the first line, the owl's burning eyes, but that's about as easy as it gets with him.

Maybe we should have a go at cracking into another one from the same book as Cartoon at some point
 

luka

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i just picked the first cos it was first and looked cool. but maybe pick from another pamphlet?
 

luka

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for me im usually just playing around in the space and testing out words, dropping them in and see if they do anything
and waiting for something to happen and catalyse. i dont necessarily start with an idea
 

Benny Bunter

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I reckon another one from the same book - I'm assuming he wrote them all in a certain state of mind or is working within a defined framework, so if we managed to crack into one, we should theoretically be able to do another.
 

luka

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dont you have a bottle of whisky on you? dont you keep spirits in the house? its early still. stay up or everyone will laugh at you
 
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