J. H. Prynne

[Benny Bunter]

I just hate reading off a (cracked) mobile screen, and I don't really know how to do searches and all that, it's all so fiddly. I need actual paper and ink

 

[luka]

and even more uses of the word 'trifle'

 

[luka]

I just hate reading off a (cracked) mobile screen, and I don't really know how to do searches and all that, it's all so fiddly. I need actual paper and ink

buy a laptop. and a book. get a job and you will be able to afford these things. a man must work to be a man.

 

[luka]

you cant just lounge about in the spanish sun sponging off some bird. i know rich does it but he is rich and unscrupulous.

 

[Benny Bunter]

I do have a job! It's just not very well paid and my rents shot up recently so I can't afford expensive books.

Anyway, what do you think, is there any Hopkins in this or it just my imagination?

 

[luka]

i think there is loads of hopkins in this whole book. specially the abyss poems

 

[Benny Bunter]

Might be worthwhile having a look at the first poem in the book to get some some clues about what he's up to regarding the memory - this one seems relatively clear.

 

[Benny Bunter]

 

[luka]

the first one is usually the most coherent in all thesse books. woops thinks it is a cruel trick to make you think you are getting a sensible book then he hits you with the random word word list

 

[Benny Bunter]

I like the look of this book actually, a bit more approachable, I'm gonna try and read this one properly I think.

 

[luka]

I like the look of this book actually, a bit more approachable, I'm gonna try and read this one properly I think.

live blog your reading investigation

 

[Benny Bunter]

Paraphrasing Oliver again, Wound Response starts with a bodily/mental wounding, and describes the bodies response to that wound, from the first biochemical responses, then to the brain signals that register as pain, and finally on to the actual physical bruising.

In parallel to the body's response, the poem describes the instant when the wounding occurs, and describes how it registers in the mind/consciousness and is finally committed to memory.

He's dealt with how the memory works a lot before - reminds me a bit of Wound Response.

 

[Benny Bunter]

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"Faint plashing heard from the tremulous fountain"

Very Wordsworthian word that, "plashing", never seen it anywhere else. Great word!

"And with her feet she from the plashy earth. Raises a mist, that, glittering in the sun
Runs with her all the way, wherever she doth run"

"Rim" is in there too I see, one of Prynne's favourites.

 

[luka]

i use plashing all the time woops is always drawing attention to it

 

[luka]

he absolutely loves rimming

 

[Benny Bunter]

Only at the rim does the day tremble and shine

 

[Benny Bunter]

Rim/tremulous/trembles/glittering/shines

He's remixing again

 

[Benny Bunter]

Might be worthwhile having a look at the first poem in the book to get some some clues about what he's up to regarding the memory - this one seems relatively clear.

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Memory plants
Memory grafting

Grafting or graftage is a horticultural technique whereby tissues of plants are joined so as to continue their growth together.

I'm sure there's some Shakespeare that uses this metaphor but I can't remember where now

 

[luka]

he wrote a whole book about the graft metaphor in a shakespeare sonnet. i have it somewhere.

 

[luka]

When I consider everything that grows
Holds in perfection but a little moment,
That this huge stage presenteth nought but shows
Whereon the stars in secret influence comment;
When I perceive that men as plants increase,
Cheered and check'd even by the selfsame sky,
Vaunt in their youthful sap, at height decrease,
And wear their brave state out of memory;
Then the conceit of this inconstant stay
Sets you most rich in youth before my sight,
Where wasteful Time debateth with Decay
To change your day of youth to sullied night;
And all in war with Time for love of you,
As he takes from you, I engraft you new.