Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Hang on, surely you're not suggesting that being attractive makes you more attractive?!?
shiels
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On the left is what me and my mate call a sorry chin
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
The tragic part is that most of them probably could find a girlfriend, eventually, if they tried actually talking to women instead of talking online with other men about the unattainable ideal angle between jaw and chin for maximum reproductive success.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Except in your case it's actually true, of course.
luka
Well-known member
Correct!
I think that's exactly right. PUAs etc wouldn't exist without an Internet to meet up on. These kinda subcultures would never form otherwise.
mvuent
Void Dweller
i think a lot of the time in a musical movement there will be a lot of young people who seem to be more or less on the same page artistically—but then as they get older, gain wider stylistic vocabularies and greater technical knowledge/ability, it becomes clear that their alliances mostly came about due their initial limitations and circumstances. they started off in a similar place but were always going to have wildly different trajectories. were never truly on the same page, arguably. so if you try to get them back together for another movement it won’t work.
(for example, i remember being shocked to find out that this heat once opened for u2 of all bands. and energy flash is full of interviews where artists explain to him how they never really liked x scene they were a part of, they always wanted to make something more like y once they had more gear.)
i think there are two ways to solve it: either a) have a musical movement with complex, spacious parameters (like classical music) or b) get people who didn’t make music when they were younger to take it up. so yeah, i think this could be a valuable demographic:
i’ve seen a decent number of grey haired old guys skateboarding (or hoverboarding) around my neighborhood lately. definitely seems like they’re itching for something like this to get going. i bet if you put them in a studio you’d get a pretty solid husker du type ep.
william kent
Well-known member
here we go again, old shirtless centrist dad man yells at cloud about the toxic impact of the internet.
women aren't there to be found in a fishmarket and owned are they.
For incels: sure they would. go to any university and you will have any degenerate bragging about their sexual conquests or who they slept with for the last 5 days. It's absolutely hideous and elevates sex to this unattainable level of having the write looks, the write performance in bed and the write social clout on campus. No idea what PUAs are sorry.
The problem with incels is their beliefs in weird far right biological racial pseudoscience. The hierarchy they talk about exists to an extent, it's just wholly cultural. It has fuck all to do with biology. The roadmaps we use to define attractiveness and success are just warped. It's why you'll get so many internet bros salavating over anna Khachiyan because they can't control their dick, but she's actually so fucking butters.
Corpsey.
Well-known member
I think the point being made here is not that incels/PUAs fail to suggest some malaise, but that they reveal little of depth about said malaise, and probably better suggest the internet's ability to foster/amplify niche subcultures. The pick up artist community online is way weirder than your average college degenerate. It has complex rules and definitions and techniques and celebrities and etc. No way that exists without the internet.
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