Election 2020
constant escape
winter withered, warm
I honestly didn't even know that usages of "globalism" have anti-semitic connotations. It makes sense, if the word is utilized in some conspiratorial capacity, but frankly I'm not to interested in that. Anything claims I make that can;t be evidentially substantiated are working claims, hypotheses.
I generally use "globalism" to refer to any actor who has a global scope rather than a national one, and this global scope is one that would involve cooperation. Perhaps at a certain extreme of globalism, it would entail a federation of nations.
It seems like the implicit agreement here is that the word is to be avoided entirely, due to some conceptual alignment with the anthropology of the Jewish people, which to me seems a bit random. One reason being that globalism doesn;t just mean "without a nation, hence not national"
And "cosmopolitan" despite the semantics, is more of a cultural label, no? Rather than a literal citizen of nations around the world, someone with political agency in multiple states?
I just don't see why anti-semitism is necessarily unpacked from every usage of the word.
I generally use "globalism" to refer to any actor who has a global scope rather than a national one, and this global scope is one that would involve cooperation. Perhaps at a certain extreme of globalism, it would entail a federation of nations.
It seems like the implicit agreement here is that the word is to be avoided entirely, due to some conceptual alignment with the anthropology of the Jewish people, which to me seems a bit random. One reason being that globalism doesn;t just mean "without a nation, hence not national"
And "cosmopolitan" despite the semantics, is more of a cultural label, no? Rather than a literal citizen of nations around the world, someone with political agency in multiple states?
I just don't see why anti-semitism is necessarily unpacked from every usage of the word.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I didn't say some of them weren't quite amusing!
Absolutely. If the incident at the Capitol wasn't orchestrated with this in mind, it'll certainly be taken advantage of in service of it.
luka
Well-known member
I think that's right Stan but people here are very sensitive to any hint of racism, which is a good thing. It's one of the good things about dissensus but it's also one of the things which I think should allow us to use a term like globalist on the understanding that we don't mean the Jews
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
This makes him sound like a small child that got murdered.
craner
Beast of Burden
Yes, and Patty was only talking about the Rothschild family.
luka
Well-known member
Yeah but everyOne asked him to stop!
constant escape
winter withered, warm
I was just arguing that the only meaningful contingency that leads anywhere but globalism/international-capitalism/techno-feudalism would necessarily involve a reactionary, more or less fascist coup, which is a strong statement that doesn;t have enough backing it up. But as a point of departure, it may be useful, and usually that is what i;m going for: what can further our understanding?
And such a coup is what would have unfolded if that siege was successful. And when I say that nationalism is now officially parochial, I mean it in a subtle and implicit way. Because now, you take nationalism to its extreme, and that sorta siege is what you get, no? If things go on in the way they promise to, for me, nationalism (at least in the US) will continue to be relegated to underground tactics.
Do you remember what you said about WW2 re: Gravity's Rainbow? I think that's the approach you should take to this.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Even you.
constant escape
winter withered, warm
You're right, and I'm not trying to change that. Part of my difficulty here is just that I wasn;t even aware the word so widely carried this connotation - and it makes sense why it does, I just think its a mistake to apply that degree of skepticism to every usage of the word.