Election 2020

[constant escape]

Put me in, coach!

 

[boxedjoy]

I don't care enough about being right to carry on with this which is why I'm tapping out. Reaons are for reasonable people and there's no point trying to get anywhere with unreasonable people.

 

[thirdform]

There's some truth in that Stan but even someone like me, a master of frequency modulation, was sent half mad in the attempt.

You know I can't help that. North London got gentrified faster than shoreditch and it sent me mad in the process.

 

[constant escape]

Put me in, coach!

Nah, its an ongoing thing for me. Poignant opportunities to interface with forces largely unrepresented by psyches.

 

[luka]

As I say third, make sure the haranguing is consensual and you'll be fine.

 

[constant escape]

But is it haranguing proper if its consensual? Is it chaos if its invited over for tea?

 

[constant escape]

Proper metastability involves a sincere courtship of the unstable.

 

[constant escape]

And sustaining the unstable is a real feat.

 

[luka]

And sustaining the unstable is a real feat.

This was always my goal but I couldn't quite manage it. See how you go

 

[luka]

My vision of metastability is I am the brain and you lot are input channels. That's why I am forced to read every single post except the adverts which I scrupulously avoid.

 

[constant escape]

I think a key thing to grapple with is that success in these terms (sustaining the unstable) isn;t a one-and-done ascension, but a constant peddling. Start assuming that you've handled it, and a reckoning begins to swell beyond your gaze.

There were some Gurdjieffian folks who made this point, claiming that once one becomes the so-called 7th man, the one who is able to achieve lucidity and balance across mind/body/feelings, one needs to sustain the very work that led them there. They gave examples of humans who were supposed to be higher beings, who would snap every now and then. This snap is only cataclysmic if you register it within a one-and-done framework. Otherwise, its just a minor setback.

 

[constant escape]

This was always my goal but I couldn't quite manage it. See how you go

Like this is clearly articulated from such a one-and-done framework.

I think the work is perpetual, but you can be clever and constantly increase how smart you work, as opposed to having to sustain how hard you work. Although the former takes waaay more up-front than the latter, seemingly.

 

[luka]

i don't think you've quite grasped what I'm on about but I can't explain it here it's too secret

 

[constant escape]

"one-and-done" meaning the sensibility that supposed that once the peak is reached, there is no chance of a fall. If you assume this, then any fall is liable to shatter your motivation. Whereas if you expect falls post-peak, you won;t get complacent and start to atrophy.

This is what I mean by an infinite series of checkpoints rather than a final finish line.

 

[constant escape]

i don't think you've quite grasped what I'm on about but I can't explain it here it's too secret

You mean insanity? Thats more or less what came to mind regarding "sustaining the unstable"

 

[luka]

"one-and-done" meaning the sensibility that supposed that once the peak is reached, there is no chance of a fall. If you assume this, then any fall is liable to shatter your motivation. Whereas if you expect falls post-peak, you won;t get complacent and start to atrophy.

This is what I mean by an infinite series of checkpoints rather than a final finish line.

Yes that's right It's like balancing on your little skateboard always making micro adjustments

 

[constant escape]

I mean I'm still a kid, but already I can start to appreciate the dilation potential of time. A decade is a nearly incomprehensible span of time, in terms of existing through it in the manner that I exist. I mean even the span of the last three years seems significantly longer than the first twenty. Time does not fly for everyone.

 

[constant escape]

Provided you can sustain enough of a lucidity, which is the constant work in question, as opposed to slouching into a phenomenal autopilot state wherein time does fly. That said, one needs to account for decompression, and occasional dips into such a slumber may just do the trick. Otherwise one needs to contrive truly elaborate means, seemingly.

 

[IdleRich]

You

So we agree then? I agree that delegitimising the referendum wouldn't have worked. I'm just taking a different angle to it. There's no particular reason why a mass abstaining wouldn't have formulated a different trajectory - but of course it was never going to happen, and I have conceded as much.

Well, sure, I'm not really asking you to concede anything. But I'm not at all disagreeing with what you're saying here.

 

[sufi]

I thought they got it from you guys.

apparently not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooah it's a tricky one to spell!
seems different branches of the forces of violence have their own versions - very basic aggression behaviour