A Brooklyn Culture Mafia

shakahislop

shakahislop

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sus said:
Tbf that's both scenes. Just different drugs. Uppers and ket vs weed and shrooms.

Anyway these are all obviously caricatures, and out of date at that. It's been four years since the thread began and at least two years since I followed any of this stuff. Paid even less attention once I moved back to New York. So I am resigning as thread authority and this will be my last post as Op. I am confirming Shakaslop in my stead; thank you Shaka for volunteering.
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we are still going to kill you and then we are going to kick 'version' in the balls one thousand times
 
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versh

versh

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shakahislop said:
there's been something i've been trying to put my finger on about america but i haven't managed it. there is this earnest belief in 'community' and cultivating it. and earnestness in general. a lot of stuff that people would rip the piss out of in england is encouraged
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It feels very performative. This bland, unconvincing way of trying to come across as a good person. It's like they're permanently in the mode people over here go into when they book a doctor's appointment and their voice goes up and they start enunciating.
 
shakahislop

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there's a sense that this widespread thing where people here genuinely seem to feel that they're living in a state of oppression is laughable, given how good people have it here overall in this rich and sometimes glorious country. it seems ignorant and unworldly, and like people are projecting their own personal feelings and problems in their lives onto some vague sense of the political situation
 
shakahislop

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but at the same time america is also shocking, you can see it in the reaction of every visitor. some aspects of the way people live here and the political structure would be totally unacceptable to people from europe australia etc. and there's no way out really. it's not that easy to leave people just have to put up with it. make the best of it
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
shakahislop said:
you've been spending too much time on redscare again. i think this is probably from the heart
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Haha in a way he just confirms your point about how England perceives this differently. I live and work amongst community-oriented people, and sure some of them strike me as insincere, but those are just the people who don't actually care about it, and they are accordingly selected against in the more sincere circles.
 
shakahislop

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there's a whole thing over here about creating the closed community with it's own morality and ways of doing things. the cults (like clinamenic's one) and the yellow submarine people. the amish thing, utah mormons, and the nyc hasids. the liberal arts colleges. princeton. silent retreats. the loft. merge, unter, zero chill, FLINTA. burners.
 
sus

sus

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william kent said:
I don't think that's the whole story. I'd wager the majority of Americans I know think it's pretty lame too.
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I believe in Kim Gordon's observation that male friendships are always a menage a trois with some shared object of interest—sports, politics, music, literature. That a friendship should come about almost as a byproduct, even if it ultimately surpasses the original interest in importance. And that communities—at least the ones I want to be a part of—ought to be the same.
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

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william kent said:
I'm not talking about the idea of community being precious and wanky, I'm talking about writing a little note with that tone to hand out to people about it.
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that was from Planetarium last night. i've been twice, the first time was fucking amazing, a gamechanger in what i understood about the possibilities of live music. that was musclecars on the decks. last night was nowhere near as good, it was a guy called zach cowie, he / i failed to achieve liftoff. the tunes sounded a bit fussy, i don't know, wasn't my kind of choons, you know when someone is committed and doing the right thing but has a totally different sensibility to you. a kind of cratedigger sensibility. maybe showing off the range of his taste and access to rare things. but probably more likely just that our tastes are out of line with one another. about three tunes in he played some cheesy twee indie folk thing and i lost trust. it gets hard to invest in the tunes when you don't think the guy playing them is in line with what you like. you sort of need that willingness to go where they lead you to make something like that work.

with planetarium they are consciously trying to create some kind of community around it. there's a kind of commitment to that. maybe they've thought it through too much. with nowadays that kind of care for the details is what makes it work. unsure with planetarium. there can be an awkwardness to it.
 
0bleak

0bleak

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ya'll are too young to have been around at the height of rave culture here and elsewhere if you think stuff like the above is a bit precious and wanky - same goes for "building communities", being very earnest about pie-in-the-sky idea(l)s and such
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

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went to a friendsgiving. walked in when they were going round doing the 'what are you thankful for' round. community was a recurring theme, almost everyone mentioned it. mostly a trans crowd with some LB and presumably Q thrown in, which probably is group of people who don't find that many people similar them in the world. the community thing is such a recurring thing. it's an answer or solution that gets plugged in everywhere
 
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