Rivers

sufi

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a very uncomplimentary article in today's edition of the so called paper of record murdiochian sump of drivel more like but whatever:


somehow that URL bypasses the paywall i think
 

version

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I do not know much about gods; but I think that the river
Is a strong brown god—sullen, untamed and intractable,
Patient to some degree, at first recognised as a frontier;
Useful, untrustworthy, as a conveyor of commerce;
Then only a problem confronting the builder of bridges.
The problem once solved, the brown god is almost forgotten
By the dwellers in cities—ever, however, implacable.
Keeping his seasons and rages, destroyer, reminder
Of what men choose to forget. Unhonoured, unpropitiated
By worshippers of the machine, but waiting, watching and waiting.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I am writing a big essay right now about water metaphors and flow and tao and fluidity and process philosophy and the sea in Moby Dick. so if you have any fun science facts or myths and legends or poems or parables of rivers and seas, the constant flowing changing way of water, I would very much appreciate it

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Every river in Britain is in fact crystal-clear and teaming with biodiversity, but a shadowy cabal of liberal elites has brainwashed everyone into thinking they're choked with agrichemicals, plastic bags and human shit.
 
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Every river in Britain is in fact crystal-clear and teaming with biodiversity, but a shadowy cabal of liberal elites has brainwashed everyone into thinking they're choked with agrichemicals, plastic bags and human shit.
Look I never said London's environment was doing well
 

Mr. Tea

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Look I never said London's environment was doing well
Ironically, the Thames is healthier than it has been for centuries, although that's not setting a very high bar, granted. But:

The most recent figures published by the Environment Agency, under obligations originally established by the EU Water Framework Directive, show that only 14% of English rivers met good ecological status and no river met good chemical status.

 
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the formation of new hybrid plant species in Europe and North America would appear to be faster already than the rate at which previously existing plants are becoming extinct. Furthermore, animals and plants which we have transported around the world are acquiring characteristics that make them less and less like their ancestors. Eventually, they will become separate species. The Earth is poised for a massive acceleration in the formation of new species–come back in a million years and we might be looking at several million additional species whose existence can be attributed to the activities of humans.”
 

sus

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I've never said "all's well" but I think this picture of adaptive speciation and increasing biodiversity and evolutionary resiliency is very very different, tonally and POV-wise, from what conservation activists sell you

And indeed, Thomas has to spend half his book debunking the motivated abuse of statistics by conservation activists. And how harmful those myths have been, often leading to the needless eradication of millions of organisms because of a mistaken and scientifically baseless belief they're "invasive" and harmful to some random species of moth that some random baby boomers are fond of. Don't fall for it.

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the formation of new hybrid plant species in Europe and North America would appear to be faster already than the rate at which previously existing plants are becoming extinct. Furthermore, animals and plants which we have transported around the world are acquiring characteristics that make them less and less like their ancestors. Eventually, they will become separate species. The Earth is poised for a massive acceleration in the formation of new species–come back in a million years and we might be looking at several million additional species whose existence can be attributed to the activities of humans.”

Yes we are on our way already i think. Shit tomatoes didn't even exist five years ago

 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I've never said "all's well" but I think this picture of adaptive speciation and increasing biodiversity and evolutionary resiliency is very very different, tonally and POV-wise, from what conservation activists sell you

And indeed, Thomas has to spend half his book debunking the motivated abuse of statistics by conservation activists. And how harmful those myths have been, often leading to the needless eradication of millions of organisms because of a mistaken and scientifically baseless belief they're "invasive" and harmful to some random species of moth that some random baby boomers are fond of. Don't fall for it.

Buy Inheritors of the Earth and get green-pilled with me Tea
"Conservation activists" such as the British government?
 

catalog

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I am writing a big essay right now about water metaphors and flow and tao and fluidity and process philosophy and the sea in Moby Dick. so if you have any fun science facts or myths and legends or poems or parables of rivers and seas, the constant flowing changing way of water, I would very much appreciate it

@sufi @luka @catalog @Clinamenic @Mr. Tea @version
Joyce as usual has you covered

"What in water did Bloom, waterlover, drawer of water, watercarrier, returning to the range, admire?

Its universality: its democratic equality and constancy to its nature in seeking its own level: its vastness in the ocean of Mercator's projection: its unplumbed profundity in the Sundam trench of the Pacific exceeding 8000 fathoms: the restlessness of its waves and surface particles visiting in turn all points of its seaboard: the independence of its units: the variability of states of sea: its hydrostatic quiescence in calm: its hydrokinetic turgidity in neap and spring tides: its subsidence after devastation: its sterility in the circumpolar icecaps, arctic and antarctic: its climatic and commercial significance: its preponderance of 3 to 1 over the dry land of the globe: its indisputable hegemony extending in square leagues over all the region below the subequatorial tropic of Capricorn: the multisecular stability of its primeval basin: its luteofulvous bed: its capacity to dissolve and hold in solution all soluble substances including millions of tons of the most precious metals: its slow erosions of peninsulas and islands, its persistent formation of homothetic islands, peninsulas and downwardtending promontories: its alluvial deposits: its weight and volume and density: its imperturbability in lagoons and highland tarns: its gradation of colours in the torrid and temperate and frigid zones: its vehicular ramifications in continental lakecontained streams and confluent oceanflowing rivers with their tributaries and transoceanic currents, gulfstream, north and south equatorial courses: its violence in seaquakes, waterspouts, Artesian wells, eruptions, torrents, eddies, freshets, spates, groundswells, watersheds, waterpartings, geysers, cataracts, whirlpools, maelstroms, inundations, deluges, cloudbursts: its vast circumterrestrial ahorizontal curve: its secrecy in springs and latent humidity, revealed by rhabdomantic or hygrometric instruments and exemplified by the well by the hole in the wall at Ashtown gate, saturation of air, distillation of dew: the simplicity of its composition, two constituent parts of hydrogen with one constituent part of oxygen: its healing virtues: its buoyancy in the waters of the Dead Sea: its persevering penetrativeness in runnels, gullies, inadequate dams, leaks on shipboard: its properties for cleansing, quenching thirst and fire, nourishing vegetation: its infallibility as paradigm and paragon: its metamorphoses as vapour, mist, cloud, rain, sleet, snow, hail: its strength in rigid hydrants: its variety of forms in loughs and bays and gulfs and bights and guts and lagoons and atolls and archipelagos and sounds and fjords and minches and tidal estuaries and arms of sea: its solidity in glaciers, icebergs, icefloes: its docility in working hydraulic millwheels, turbines, dynamos, electric power stations, bleachworks, tanneries, scutchmills: its utility in canals, rivers, if navigable, floating and graving docks: its potentiality derivable from harnessed tides or watercourses falling from level to level: its submarine fauna and flora (anacoustic, photophobe), numerically, if not literally, the inhabitants of the globe: its ubiquity as constituting 90 percent of the human body: the noxiousness of its effluvia in lacustrine marshes, pestilential fens, faded flowerwater, stagnant pools in the waning moon."

Also see that fountains thread I made.

Look into anions.
 
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I've never said "all's well" but I think this picture of adaptive speciation and increasing biodiversity and evolutionary resiliency is very very different, tonally and POV-wise, from what conservation activists sell you

Sewage release into numerous rivers is endemic here, the information is fairly straightforwardly sourced (river administration authorities admit it all, get fined, continue etc) and as far as flora and fauna we have Increasingly little left to conserve. Bleached out might be more appropriate, terming it grim britannia for sickly realistic reasons is apt. You don’t need to suspend belief or an agenda on the benefits of plastic geology, or devolved plants mutants, to observe how barren and soiled our waters and coasts are

Not only do we fluff plentiful aspects of conservation, we can even conserve huge quantities of h2o to leaks and decrepit infrastructure. The single element which defines these islands can’t be fuckin collected at source, only to be spun as a charge/rate hike for work never completed, so we get fucked from every angle

If you classify sticklebacks and bullheads as river diversity, or getting a lurgy from the sea as suggestive of wellbeing for both location and people, well then yes, everything’s fiiiine
 
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