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The Feminine Perspective against the Manosphere
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Mr. Tea
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You could do what most others have done and just post a bunch of videos with a brief bit of text under one, though.
learn to control your senses and discipline yourself, you filthy pig eating kafir degenerate! Women in the middle east have much, much higher standards than your mates who sound like they came straight off a glee set.
anyway lol this guy is a racist he just cloakes it in gender to avoid censure. instead of pre-rational muzlamics and ah-rarbs we get pre-rational and intuitive women. typical American. I blame @Corpsey and @luka 's liberal low effort banter for the influx of American bombers into dissensus (you're alright gus, you can stick around, even if you spent 3 minutes and 30 seconds in kadıköy — the worst part of Turkey alongside nişantaşı.)
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
Non-rationality (NOT irrationality and not pre-rationality) is awesome and is in no way inferior to rationality. Rationality and non-rationality are two different ways of viewing the world, and both have their own strengths and weaknesses. Claiming that non-rationality is inferior to masculine rationality is just another way of hiding and repressing femininity.
Yes, and you still deny the racialised their rationality by equivocating with non-rationality, which you haven't even defined vis-a-vis pre-rationality and irrationality. Well done. Soon you'll be banging on about how Arab women are capable of democracy, and thereby playing straight into the discourse of civilising the barbarian other. @sufi ban this racist democratic filth please.
And yes, the woman you love to defend is an imperialist bootlicker who calls for, wait for it, non-violence! You're the blockheaded existentialist here, not JB. They are perfectly rationally aware of their interests in whiteness and American identity, unlike your blubbering self. So please, for the love of Allah, spare me your conciliatory gestures.
Although why I bother to respond to a troll is obvious, just so that it is on the public record. Otherwise I have no intention of convincing you that you are wrong. And that should, I pray to the high heavens, conclude our engagement.
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
What do you mean I equivocate? And there is a kind of rationality symbolically aligned with femininity, it's unconditional Kantian rationality, while masculine rationality is conditional and instrumental. Thus I never denied women their rationality.
And where do you represent femininity as something distinct from masculinity?
And where do you represent femininity as something distinct from masculinity?
How is Kantian rationality unconditional? Kant couldn't even get out of this dilemma and had to devise the synthetic transcendental apperception of the thing in itself. Why are you so intent upon rejecting Engels?
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
Kantian rationality is not goal-oriented, thus unconditional. That's part of what it means to value humanity as an end-in-itself. You value people not as a means to an end, but as something that has value independent of its ability to help you achieve your goals.
I have no clue what dilemma you're bringing up. I know a lot about apperception and the thing in itself, but I have no idea how either of those things are relevant to the current discussion.
I have no clue what dilemma you're bringing up. I know a lot about apperception and the thing in itself, but I have no idea how either of those things are relevant to the current discussion.
no, that is Kantian ethics. And you're wrong. please stop embarrassing yourself.
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
Yes, I meant Kantian ethical rationality, as distinct from instrumental rationality. Plenty of Marxists, like Zygmunt Bauman, have drawn this distinction.
I'd love to know how I'm wrong though. I spent years studying Kant. Kant was my speciality in graduate school. Mind telling me what I got wrong?
no, I'm not your servant. You can work it out yourself.
But it's telling that you still deny the other their instrumental rationality.
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
Yes the kingdom of ends. Where everyone is valued as an end, meaning they are treated like beings that have value independent of their use for completing a goal. And I never denied that instrumental rationality exists! Are you denying that any sort of unconditional rationality exists?
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
I did work it out myself! Over the course of many years! Don't be a pseudo-intellectual. If you don't want to engage me intellectually, don't post in my threads. And don't call me a racist.
Even if what I'm saying is inaccurate to Kant (which is highly unlikely), it still doesn't changed that a rationality exists distinct from instrumental rationality, which is my point. And I don't deny women their instrumental rationality. Everyone can access both types of rationality. What I'm saying is that unconditional rationality is symbolically aligned with femininity.
Unconditional rationality is frustrated by the capitalist mode of production, you should be aware of that. The productive forces exist to such an extent that people can be valued as ends in themselves, but the need for capitals self-valourisation by nature precludes that. This is not gendered, as much as it might be convenient to do so. In fact what is worrying is precisely that it is impersonal. Noone is in charge, not even the manosphere.
You assume I'm an intellectual. I'm not, there's nothing for me to be pseudonymous about. Your kind will be forced to do hard labour for the betterment of women all across the middle east.
And why shouldn't I call you a racist? Does it hurt diddydums?
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
Why is it not gendered? You just asserted that without argument. The rest of what you said is consistent with my argument. The Impersonal aligns with masculinity. Masculine culture loves to promote itself as ideally disinterested. Sure, no one person is in charge of the capitalist system, but the instrumental rationality endemic to capitalism is still coded as masculine.