The Big Hello Thread

If yourself or anyone have any specific questions about jailing, I was a correction officer on Rikers Island. Please feel free to ask. I doubt that beyond mentioning I did the job, I am still processing retirement and am not quite adapted to just being ‘me’, whoever tf that is, I certainly didn’t join this forum to tell ‘war stories’. In my pre-CO life I was jailed for short periods @civil disobedience. So, I had a fairly unusual perspective having been on both sides of the bars to some extent.

To your question about like-minded individuals: I am assuming you mean politically/class conscious??? Correct me if I’m not understanding. I Met/worked with a handful of fellow officers who were interested in, or knew something about working class politics and/or leftish type talk/books/ideas.
Particularly when Bernie Sanders made his first run (2016) there was more support for him than I expected. Probably, and I’m just speculating based on demographics, but I would say there was more open/enthusiastic support for the 2016 pre-cheated by/yet still agreed to corral what passes for the left in the U.S. electoral reality in CDNY than in the NYPD or FDNY. It’s speculation: NYPD has a workforce Btwn 40-50k officers. It’s difficult to compare. FDNY which is not law enforcement but a premier uniformed civil service has a much closer size department.
8-10k service members.
There is a stark racial dynamic as well.
CDNY is @93% non-white (European Heritage). Very similar to the inmate population interestingly enough.
FDNY is I think about 80% ‘white’ particularly from Irish/Italian working class nieghborhoods. I take no pleasure or pride in saying that Dept. Is 90+ % Trump types of on stripe or another(???)

Capitalist Realism is the book that put the hooks in me. Inho it is the most important book maybe since debords ‘Society of the Spectacle’

Btw, sorry I’m not using the quote feature.
I’m a bit of a Luddite and have been writing exclusively on my phone. The family computer is virtually my wife & daughters work/screen liesure domain.
 
did you ever had to shoot someone on the line of duty @GhostofKinski?
We only carried firearms when transporting inmates to the hospital. If you worked inside the jail as I did, there are no firearms.
It’s you & a can of pepper spray trying to supervise 30-50 inmates, from petty thieves, substance addicted related inmates, depending on the house classification, to rapists, murderers, and psychopaths in general.
We are required as a condition of employment to remain firearms qualified & most officers carry a firearm off duty.

I am an Army veteran. Luckily, even though I was days away from deployment during the first gulf war (Kuwait) the war ended and I was spared having to answer questions like that. Just FYI: it’s generally not a question I would make a habit of asking people.


One of the most interesting people I ever knew was a senior NCO who did one tour during the Korean conflict, two more in Vietnam. Brilliant man spoke five languages fluently. He retired while I was in my first year. I was in a bar with him once and some kid asked him that. He looked the kid in the eyes, or 1000 yards through them, smiled in a chilling way and replied “More people than you ever met in your Life.”

True story and probably not far from the literal
Truth.
 

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The board is interesting to peruse as an archive, especially if you're interested in Mark's works. Everything's preserved more or less going back to the founding. You get a feel for the kind of 00s era blog ecology he participated in and channeled. Which was a long time before my time. Although oldheads on the board knew him well
 
That is interesting isn't it.
I think so. Rikers Island is a jail. The inmates who populate it are almost exclusively awaiting trial and/or space in Prison (if convicted). Some are under observation pending adjudication, these men are usually the subway “crazy” people who have committed criminal acts. Some just property damage. A fair amount dangerously homicidal/suicidal etc. as an aside. That is the population I preferred to work with.
I felt I could and was able to make a difference with them.
The racial disparity has many reasons.
Making bail (or inability there of) often quite low monetarily. Some are being sweated by the DA or are refusing any plea deals until a favorable judge will deem the time they spent there is essentially time served. Some are hoping for a program (substance abuse rehabilitation under supervision etc)
There are very punitive measures imposed on the working poor. In other words, the inmates mother may be in subsidized housing that they are in danger of losing (yes it’s bad) if thier lumpin proletariat son is sent home with a felony record. Through a plea deal for instance.
The entire system is barbaric.
Having said that, anywhere between 1/3-4/5 of the inmates I virtually did my career with.
They just can’t make it on the street.
Moreover, 99% of the time thier victims are the working poor parent/child just trying to keep thier head above water. It’s a harsh truth and I’m not discounting the root causes (capitalism) but they are truly parasites who prey on those least able to get justice.
I would’ve had a happier, more fulfilling career if the inmate population where the real criminals of the 1%, but as we know, there is scarce justice, just this.
 
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The board is interesting to peruse as an archive, especially if you're interested in Mark's works. Everything's preserved more or less going back to the founding. You get a feel for the kind of 00s era blog ecology he participated in and channeled. Which was a long time before my time. Although oldheads on the board knew him well
Yes, Marx was my starting point,…I think.
I’ve read a fair amount (probably not nearly enough by forum standards) I never made it through the full version of Capital, but have read large sections via the Marx/Engles reader. That I was able to read cover to cover.
I am essentially an autodidact. A huge flaw in my self education is truly understanding the Hegel/Kant/fuerbach etc.etc.etc. I read Che, Lenin, Connolly, some Trotsky, one by Stalin.
The way I read I have a sort of primitive notation system through unlinking, hilighting, squaring names or passages I must pursue by cited authors circling things I have questions/doubts about,…yeah, I’m grasping at straws and occasionally have/find an A-HA! Moment or find.
 
Dont want to disappoint but....None of us have ever read any Marx. Mark Fisher never read Marx either as it goes.

Even if that is true, I doesn’t change his impact/appeal to me. Actually, from my perspective, I draw more of a line from McCluhan to debord to Fisher.
I’ve only read a smattering of Zizek, and only watched YouTube talks with Jameson.
 
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