woops

is not like other people
i have just finished a big binge on Forster which led me to his time in Alexandria during WW1 where he met Cavafy. I'd forgotten how much i liked him - a totally distinctive voice which could come across quite arid - so many poems about obscure characters from classic antiquity - but some kind of beauty in there that i find very moving. I think i am always swayed by a sentimental strain in poetry... Again, i'm going to guess that he suffers from less good translations early on which more modern editions are attempting to fix.

went past his house in belgravia yest we rday
 

mixed_biscuits

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A Short Story of Falling​

BY ALICE OSWALD

It is the story of the falling rain
to turn into a leaf and fall again

it is the secret of a summer shower
to steal the light and hide it in a flower

and every flower a tiny tributary
that from the ground flows green and momentary

is one of water's wishes and this tale
hangs in a seed-head smaller than my thumbnail

if only I a passerby could pass
as clear as water through a plume of grass

to find the sunlight hidden at the tip
turning to seed a kind of lifting rain drip

then I might know like water how to balance
the weight of hope against the light of patience

water which is so raw so earthy-strong
and lurks in cast-iron tanks and leaks along

drawn under gravity towards my tongue
to cool and fill the pipe-work of this song

which is the story of the falling rain
that rises to the light and falls again
 

droid

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Benny Bunter

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@woops

Comme le fruit se fond en jouissance,
Comme en délice il change son absence
Dans une bouche où sa forme se meurt,
Je hume ici ma future fumée,
Et le ciel chante à l'âme consumée
Le changement des rives en rumeur.
 

Benny Bunter

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Need recommendations of collections of Valéry's prose writings, seems like there's mountains of the stuff out there

Been reading some of the poetry in Spanish (which it seems to translate pretty well into, unlike the English versions I've seen on the net) and loving it, especially Le Cimetière marin, which reminds me quite a bit of Wallace Stevens, and Les Pas is one of the most perfect poems I've ever read.

But yeah, what about the prose stuff? (In English obviously, my French is extremely basic)
 

luka

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Need recommendations of collections of Valéry's prose writings, seems like there's mountains of the stuff out there

Been reading some of the poetry in Spanish (which it seems to translate pretty well into, unlike the English versions I've seen on the net) and loving it, especially Le Cimetière marin, which reminds me quite a bit of Wallace Stevens, and Les Pas is one of the most perfect poems I've ever read.

But yeah, what about the prose stuff? (In English obviously, my French is extremely basic)
just read the new directions collected its really great
 

luka

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proper shit cover like their mate in school done it
 

luka

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i was more like 19 or 20. to be totally honest. bt it's genuinely amazing. i don't rate the poems.
 

luka

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valery is odd in that he decided he wanted his poetry to be entirely conscious. but poetry can't be written with the conscious mind.
 

luka

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it's not that he couldn't write poetry in the usual fashion, but he just developed some scruple about it. so he stopped. i think he came up with the line i like that goes something like
the first line is from the gods, then you have to match it
 
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