Coxy said:Grime ... [is] losing their big station (rinse).
Howyoumean?
Coxy said:Grime ... [is] losing their big station (rinse).
so should all rock stick to its 1950s roots?
yeah good point.SIZZLE said:I actually like it as a gesture towards 'fun' when a lot of people are going for 'heavy' or 'dark'.
mms said:maybe the swarm of style mags who keep on telling young mcs they're amazing don't help really, saying people are amazing all the time etc leaves room for unbelivers to say they aren't, for taking sides etc, it's not fair overall.
luka said:how come no MC ever got better? how come everyone just stayed on the same level or deteriorated?
Tactics said:I've still got another long reply stored up but just have no time to write it but a main problem with this scene is people's impatience. Maybe because young African (black) youth in London have been waiting so long for something that accurately articulates them, maybe its a reflection of the instant/microwaveable (cliche I know) culture we live in, maybe its seeing Hip Hop in the States blow and thinking that this is the reply, maybe its 'cos press are constantly looking for a fresh story, maybe it's 'cos people just wanna make p's but its this scene's impatience that is gonna kill it.
Why don't producers, mc's, fledgling 'labels', distributors and everyone involved jus sekkle and relax? How long has this scene been going properly? Since 2000? 2001? You can't expect so much so soon...you really can't. People need to take their time, refine their expectations, hone their crafts (that goes out to all the DJ's, producers and mc's) and just WAIT. Honestly. Stop thinking this is the States (e.g jumping straight into, and trying to develop, a mixtape culture in this piracy ridden digital age) and develop some origianl ideas. If you wanna follow the States why not take a look at thier mistakes and LEARN from them. See how the major's TOTALLY OWN Hip Hop in the States? Then stops asking for deals! It's similar to how countries such as mine (Ghana) given a FAIR chance would be soem of the best in the world 'cos you would learn from mistakes the First World makes and implement them in your own. Anyway I'm going off on a tangent - I'll give you a personal example.
My people and me were like everyone else. We developed a 5 year plan and set about it. When results didn't come instantly we started getting nervous and wondering why? Many things happened in the camp (marriages, moving, new jobs) we brings us to the present. We then decided "f*** speed! lets just take our time" and that's what were doing. So I honestly don't know when we will bring out our first tune, whether this year (not happening), next year or the year after. Until we have become better musicians, learn the business thoroughly, develop a better 5 year plan and actually hone our skills we ain't (publicly anyway) going nowhere. THAT'S what I think's wrong the scene (well partly). Sorry to bore you lot with selfish talk of my people but that's the only example I could think of.
Poisonous Dart said:Grime is in a TRANSITION PHASE...all young forms of music go through this...Hip Hop has been through about 8 or 10 in my LIFETIME...Stop running around and screaming like it's the Grime Apocalypse or the damned Garage Ragnarock...Grime is not going to die soon because YOUR INDIVIDUAL buzz or level of excitement about it is dying down. One.
Tactics said:'cos obviously you didn't see or even read my post properly. I'm a fan of the scene dummy and am actually trying to defend it here. No-one said the scene is going to die (which even if someone said that...does it matter? They are TYPING that in CYBERSPACE - tell the kids on the 69, 316 or 262 that the scene is dying and with one blast of some MC from their phone will laugh in your hipster face!)
Please re-read my post.