vimothy
yurp
Actually, most of people I know think that they're a lot smarter than that (though of course there's plenty of border-line hypocrisy). They talk about things like this:
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Actually, most of people I know think that they're a lot smarter than that (though of course there's plenty of border-line hypocrisy). They talk about things like this:
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
As this case represents the very lowest level of proximity to an actual terrorist act having been committed, presumably all actual and thwarted suicide bombers have also been the subjects of similar high visibility media exposures. Does that not make the overall frequency of such activities kind of not very often at all? Like way less than all kinds of horrible violent things that people do to each other for all sorts of reasons? Why then does it come to dominate political agendas and the media landscape so?
Sorry, I've just seen the headlines about 'Brown to unveil plans to step up security at stations.'
What is this madness? Where does it lead to, total lockdown? Let's just stick chips in baby's heads when they're born and track the fuckers on satellite. If life imitates art I think some people have been taking The book of Revelation a bit too literally. Ok that's actually true... Not only that but 1984, Brave New World, THX1138 and Fahrenheit 451 have become models for an ideal society and ceased to be satire.
Sorry, I've just seen the headlines about 'Brown to unveil plans to step up security at stations.'
What is this madness? Where does it lead to, total lockdown? Let's just stick chips in baby's heads when they're born and track the fuckers on satellite. If life imitates art I think some people have been taking The book of Revelation a bit too literally. Ok that's actually true... Not only that but 1984, Brave New World, THX1138 and Fahrenheit 451 have become models for an ideal society and ceased to be satire.
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matt b
Indexing all opinion
seems strange that I've never encountered use of this word before. i like it. kinda sexy
ok then... carry on
vimothy
yurp
No evidence?
A study carried out by one of Britain's most distinguished criminologists, Professor David Farrington of the University of Cambridge, in conjunction with Patrick Langan of the US Department of Justice, compared the USA with England and Wales between 1981 and 1996. Crime rates based on crime surveys were available in both countries up to 1995, and crime figures based on police records to 1996. The study investigated the possibility that increasing the risk of punishment would lead to falling crime. Two measures of the risk of punishment were used: the conviction rate per 1,000 alleged offenders; and the incarceration rate per 1,000 alleged offenders. The method of calculation is explained in the Appendix. Click here to check the original report (PDF).
The original study by Langan and Farrington was published in 1998 and gives imprisonment rates and crime rates in England and Wales based on the British Crime Survey up to 1995. The 1997 BCS results were not available and so the study does not fully capture the impact of the policy reversal in 1993. However, Professor Farrington and Darrick Jolliffe have subsequently updated the estimates for England and Wales to 1999, allowing us to appraise the impact of the policy reversal. This study is not yet published and we are very grateful to them for permitting us to quote from it.
The original 1998 comparison showed that the USA and England and Wales pursued very different policies and produced very different results. The study found that the chances of being imprisoned increased in the USA between 1981 and 1995 and fell in England and Wales. During the same period, crime fell in the USA and increased in England and Wales.
The original study by Langan and Farrington was published in 1998 and gives imprisonment rates and crime rates in England and Wales based on the British Crime Survey up to 1995. The 1997 BCS results were not available and so the study does not fully capture the impact of the policy reversal in 1993. However, Professor Farrington and Darrick Jolliffe have subsequently updated the estimates for England and Wales to 1999, allowing us to appraise the impact of the policy reversal. This study is not yet published and we are very grateful to them for permitting us to quote from it.
The original 1998 comparison showed that the USA and England and Wales pursued very different policies and produced very different results. The study found that the chances of being imprisoned increased in the USA between 1981 and 1995 and fell in England and Wales. During the same period, crime fell in the USA and increased in England and Wales.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
Did they also look at things like economic conditions and policing levels for the corresponding time periods I wonder?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Well my friends are a bit more grown up than that, but I take your point: that for every one suspect who really is planning to do something serious, there are going to 'dabblers' who get a kick out of the idea of this kind of stuff. It's obviously a dangerous game to play, though - I mean, it's not a big secret that this kind of activity might attract counter-terrorist-type attention. Though maybe that's the whole point? I dunno.
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nomadologist
Guest
But, as anyone who's taken a single day of a statistics course will tell you, "correlation does not prove causation"...
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nomadologist
Guest
Chuckle. Borderline, eh?
hundredmillionlifetimes
Banned
Sorry, I've just seen the headlines about 'Brown to unveil plans to step up security at stations.'
You mean this?
Blairism ('It is and it isn't', 'I believe it is even though I know it isn't' etc].
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nomadologist
Guest
Exactly.
hundredmillionlifetimes
Banned
Update on Samina Malik
I wonder what her sentence would have been if she'd called her Teddy Bear, "Al-Qaeda"?
(Win the Turner Prize, maybe?)
Gavin said:
I wonder what her sentence would have been if she'd called her Teddy Bear, "Al-Qaeda"?
(Win the Turner Prize, maybe?)
crackerjack
Well-known member
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
There's a nutter from the other side of the fence in the news today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7469180.stm
This guy had actually got as far as accumulating weapons and making nailbombs, though. Oh, and amassing a few thousand indecent images of children. Can't say I'd want to be in his shoes when he gets sent down...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7469180.stm
This guy had actually got as far as accumulating weapons and making nailbombs, though. Oh, and amassing a few thousand indecent images of children. Can't say I'd want to be in his shoes when he gets sent down...
version
Well-known member
A letter from these guys was doing the rounds on Twitter the other day. Apparently they refuse to support the rail strikes because the RMT uphold "bourgeois morality" by not supporting the abolition of said laws.
😂
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
At least one of them is a comedy genius. Their hand-made sign saying "DONATE TRIDENT TO NORTH KOREA" was great.