Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I don't understand how Israel gets no credit from Western 'progressives' for being about a zillion times more 'progressive' than its neighbours - it's very much an unprincipled exception on the Western progressives' side.
I don't understand how someone who spends every thread that touches on LGBT issues getting told to fuck off by literally everyone, but especially everyone here who is gay, or bi, or trans, or has trans friends or a trans partner, has the brass neck to invoke Hamas's anti-gay bigotry as a reason why we should all hate Hamas and ergo support Israel.

I guess the Yiddish word is 'chutzpah.'
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
Just logged
as with Russia-Ukraine the imperative should be to de-escalate, if poss. we dont want to walk into the gates of hell.
The imperative in Russia-Ukraine should be for Ukrainians to defeat Russia, otherwise they'll simply rearm and come back for another go in a few years time. Also, please point me to any conflict in recent years where Russia has de-escalated and meant it. They're still bombing Ukranian apartment blocks and will doubtless continue ceasefire or no.
 

mixed_biscuits

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I don't understand how someone who spends every thread that touches on LGBT issues getting told to fuck off by literally everyone, but especially everyone here who is gay, or bi, or trans, or has trans friends or a trans partner, has the brass neck to invoke Hamas's anti-gay bigotry as a reason why we should all hate Hamas and ergo support Israel.

I guess the Yiddish word is 'chutzpah.'
Well, that just proves my point
 

mixed_biscuits

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It's all about solidarity, @Mr. Tea: you should stand with your fellow progressive comrades in Israel rather than the ultra-conservatives of Hamas. It would make your uncle Joe happy too
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Will Tea stand with his progressive comrades, or will he cave in to his true fundamentalist nature?

Find out, on the next page of Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
It's all about solidarity, @Mr. Tea: you should stand with your fellow progressive comrades in Israel rather than the ultra-conservatives of Hamas. It would make your uncle Joe happy too
The present Israeli government is dominated by right-wing and far-right parties that are homophobic as all hell.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
and yet homosexuality isn't criminalised there whereas...
Yet again, I invite you to quote me, or anyone else here, who has said "Hamas are some real sound dudes."

Your intended solution to the oppression of the poor gay Palestinians that you've just decided to care about is for them to be killed by nice, progressive Israeli missiles, rather than nasty, homophobic Hamas bullets.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Looks like the consensus is settling on the missile having come from Palestinian land malfunctioning and hitting a car park by the hospital. So what was that press conference all about? They made out it had hit the hospital; looks like they made a mistake! This also means that lots of people on this thread jumped to conclusions...for shame! Well done @padraig (u.s.) for keeping a level head.
 

mixed_biscuits

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First Channel 4 debunk the fake recording.


Now Al Jazeera debunk the fake 'malfunctioning rocket' story.


Meanwhile Israel warns 24 hospitals, including the one that was struck to evacuate again.

Logic fail. Source fail (too narrow and/or obviously biased). And do you remember when Israel said they were going to invade Gaza? Of course everybody should evacuate - there's a war on and there will be many more malfunctioning rockets and grotesque errors to come.
 

version

Well-known member
Logic fail. Source fail (too narrow and/or obviously biased). And do you remember when Israel said they were going to invade Gaza? Of course everybody should evacuate - there's a war on and there will be many more malfunctioning rockets and grotesque errors to come.

Do you not get bored of this contrarian posturing?
 
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