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This should be good:
Reynolds hardcore continuum event
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mos dan
fact music
yeah i know mate, sorry i didn't think you were, i just wanted it stating for the record that i'm pretty wary of this debate (a) getting massively overstated in terms of its importance, and (b) distracting people from the business of actually enjoying dance music. so basically i totally agree with you!
having said that the 29th should be good fun.
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droid
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Yeah, is it being recorded? And more importantly, is the East London massive gonna be waiting outside for K-Punk afterwards? 
blissblogger
Well-known member
you're joking right
i've stayed out of this corner of this discussion so far, but i can't resist signposting the irony of this remark
you're pretty wary of this debate getting overblown which is why
1/ you jumped at the chance to participate in the event on the 29th! and advertised it on your blog before anyone else!
2/ you wrote your piece in FACT!
3/ you and a couple of your netmates started the debate in the first place!
LOL as they say
i've stayed out of this corner of this discussion so far, but i can't resist signposting the irony of this remark
you're pretty wary of this debate getting overblown which is why
1/ you jumped at the chance to participate in the event on the 29th! and advertised it on your blog before anyone else!
2/ you wrote your piece in FACT!
3/ you and a couple of your netmates started the debate in the first place!
LOL as they say
john eden
male pale and stale
It's interesting to hear you say that Simon as I wasn't aware of either you or K-Punk naming the critics you were responding to. Is Mos Dan one of these spectral "people who have read deleuze", then?
blissblogger
Well-known member
mos dan
fact music
oh come on simon
i didn't jump at anything, but said 'yes', when asked to participate by nine, like i said above it looks like fun. i posted the details on my personal blog (which no-one reads but close friends rly), copying and pasting it from alex williams' blog - i only knew the full details when i read it on splintering ashes, that was the first i'd heard of any specifics.
when i say i'm wary of it getting overblown, i mean that i'm not sure there's much more that can be added to the debate right now (maybe when more time has passed/perspective gained?) without it getting very circular. i just feel we should all be enjoying the music we love a bit more, and not getting bogged down in the back and forth of the nuum debate. just my personal opinion.
i wrote one piece for fact, and haven't felt the need to write any more! i have been more than happy to let k punk and alex williams have 'the last word(s)' and get on with my life. furthermore, chill!
ps no-one's named them, but bok bok and and wordthecat are my real-mates, as it goes. there is no web conspiracy!
mos dan
fact music
i don't know where that quote is from, but not only have i not read deleuze, i'm not sure of the significance of having read deleuze in this context. *goes back to planning his weekend*
john eden
male pale and stale
OK, it just doesn't seem to fit any of the critics I've seen. I guess maybe Rupture has read Deleuze?
It just seems like a slightly opaque way of going about a "debate".
blissblogger
Well-known member
opaciteee
it didn't seem opaque to me, that bit
but anyways, 94 percent of that talk could hardly have been more clear, starkly laid out or concrete.
while i'm here can i just say to the bloke who knows his physics (and who posts on a thread about jungle/etc musics despite despising the music!), i'm obviously not using "continuum" in the physics sense -- in fact i was unaware it had that meaning. Continuum has a sort of common parlance usage to describe a bunch of things that are linked historically, a thread running through time. The word seemed more attractive to me than "tradition", because tradition sounds a bit stuffy and static, whereas the whole point of the h-core lineage is that it keeps moving, it's always pushing forward.
That's the paradox that has kept me enthralled for so long -- a tradition that keeps moving forward, changing,. Also the balancing act of being open to outside influences yet remaining "relatively self-contained" (whoever said that --padraig? dominic? -- hit the nail on the head).
it didn't seem opaque to me, that bit
but anyways, 94 percent of that talk could hardly have been more clear, starkly laid out or concrete.
while i'm here can i just say to the bloke who knows his physics (and who posts on a thread about jungle/etc musics despite despising the music!), i'm obviously not using "continuum" in the physics sense -- in fact i was unaware it had that meaning. Continuum has a sort of common parlance usage to describe a bunch of things that are linked historically, a thread running through time. The word seemed more attractive to me than "tradition", because tradition sounds a bit stuffy and static, whereas the whole point of the h-core lineage is that it keeps moving, it's always pushing forward.
That's the paradox that has kept me enthralled for so long -- a tradition that keeps moving forward, changing,. Also the balancing act of being open to outside influences yet remaining "relatively self-contained" (whoever said that --padraig? dominic? -- hit the nail on the head).
john eden
male pale and stale
yes indeed. And enjoyable.
The physics bloke I think is nomadthesecond, who isn't a bloke, btw.
blissblogger
Well-known member
go with the flow
oops, sexist moi
for a moment you had me thinking i was imagining the Deleuzy thing but then i recalled this bit on Bok Bok's blog
"the non-linear fluxuations and INTERNATIONAL flows of ideas is where a real continuum might be traced"
i'm not sure if "fluxuations" is a word but it does have a definite Deleuze-lite vibe about it, no? Not saying he's read D&G but it's easy to pick this stuff up secondhand, on the net (like an STD of the mind).
all that flow talk...
and you know I'm a fan of Deleuze & Guattari, i'm just wary of the techno-utopian spin that was put on it in the 90s in re. the internet etc. Deterritorialisation is what capitalism, unshackled, implements without regard to our needs and interests. It's not always a positive.
oops, sexist moi
for a moment you had me thinking i was imagining the Deleuzy thing but then i recalled this bit on Bok Bok's blog
"the non-linear fluxuations and INTERNATIONAL flows of ideas is where a real continuum might be traced"
i'm not sure if "fluxuations" is a word but it does have a definite Deleuze-lite vibe about it, no? Not saying he's read D&G but it's easy to pick this stuff up secondhand, on the net (like an STD of the mind).
all that flow talk...
and you know I'm a fan of Deleuze & Guattari, i'm just wary of the techno-utopian spin that was put on it in the 90s in re. the internet etc. Deterritorialisation is what capitalism, unshackled, implements without regard to our needs and interests. It's not always a positive.
swears
preppy-kei
haha, for a minute there I thought Mr Tea had come back to post in this thread...
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
just to be clear I wasn't targeting you nor Bok Bok or wordthecat. I actually meant specifically on Dissensus & more specifically in this thread.
yes indeed. And enjoyable.
second this.