News of the World phone hacking scandal

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
The Times is a brilliant paper, probably the calmest, most honest we have.

Not trying to stoke up any further arguments, genuinely (!), but the Times is awful right-wing bollocks. I say this as someone who grew up in a house where it was read, and who worked for a little bit at/on T2, albeit a decade ago (awful, AWFUL people in the main - I was there around 9/11, and people were laughing in a oh-aren't-we-so-sophisticated-and-ironic anti-American way the day after it happened, at American people talking on screen. Utter, despicable cunts.). Terrible in almost every conceivable way, hiding under a veneer of respectability and, well, calmness.
 

hucks

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Not trying to stoke up any further arguments, genuinely (!), but the Times is awful right-wing bollocks. I say this as someone who grew up in a house where it was read, and who worked for a little bit at/on T2, albeit a decade ago (awful, AWFUL people in the main - I was there around 9/11, and people were laughing in a oh-aren't-we-so-sophisticated-and-ironic anti-American way the day after it happened, at American people talking on screen. Utter, despicable cunts.). Terrible in almost every conceivable way, hiding under a veneer of respectability and, well, calmness.

I thought even the calmness was lacking when I read the Sunday Times at the weekend. Their long piece on the hacking story talked of the "tyranny of the print unions" and called Ed Miliband and the Guardian lefties in a main news story. It was really shrill. I don't think it's a good paper at all.
 

crackerjack

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I thought even the calmness was lacking when I read the Sunday Times at the weekend. Their long piece on the hacking story talked of the "tyranny of the print unions" and called Ed Miliband and the Guardian lefties in a main news story. It was really shrill. I don't think it's a good paper at all.

No, the Sunday is a far-right piece of shit - as you say, the bias infects their news stories and Portillo is probably their most left-wing columnist FFS. The daily is good though, however unpleasant the people who staff it.
 

IdleRich

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So Brooks gone although she lasted a couple of days longer than my prediction. Don't get this bit though

"Brooks also faced an uncomfortable appearance before MPs on the Commons culture, media and sport select committee on Tuesday along with Rupert and James Murdoch to answer questions about the phone-hacking scandal."
Surely resigning doesn't get her out of that one?
Edit: Ignore me, it says in the next line that she willl still attend.
 

luka

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i cant imagine enjoying a pint with many guardian writers either for what its worth.
i think the times is fine. it is what it is. my point was that murdoch has been a good proprieter. the guardian has bettr sports writers. th times has terrible sports writers.
the guardian is undrrated by you lot though. it is th best paper. it broke all this stuff. wikileaks wouldnet hav teamed up with anyone else in the uk. i like kevin mitchell. i lik the cricket writers. i like larry elliot. ive got time for monbiot. visually its way ahead of the pack. that matters to me. th times is ugly.
 
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luka

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its a bit silly just reading th comment pages of a paper tho and thn going oh i dont like this paper, i dont agree with thir opinions. whats the point of bing all right on lik the indy when you dont have money to pay reporters?
 
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luka

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NoftW was very good visually too. The red tops gnerally are visually very bold and exiciting.
 

hucks

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i cant imagine enjoying a pint with many guardian writers either for what its worth.

the guardian is undrrated by you lot though. it is th best paper. it broke all this stuff. wikileaks wouldnet hav teamed up with anyone else in the uk. i like kevin mitchell. i lik the cricket writers. i like larry elliot. ive got time for monbiot. visually its way ahead of the pack. that matters to me. th times is ugly.

I have had a drink with many Guaridan writers who are good people and support the right football teams.
 

e/y

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Paul Hayward is a horrible, horrible writer, though. he just re-hashes the same trite shit about big clubs all the time. so do most of the others who champion The Best League In the World (Williams, the one who supports Everton, think there's one or two more).

that said, the Fiver writers (Doyle, Ronay, Barry) and the Podcast are amazing (Richardson is a demi-god in my eyes), and I don't think there's any paper / site out there with a better lineup of writers on foreign football than Sid Lowe / Rafa H / Bandini. Jonathan Wilson's and the Zonal Marking editor's pieces are always excellent, too. and I really wish Marcela Mora y Araujo started contributing again. so, for me anyway, the football section is great so long as you ignore the trivial / Prem-cheerleader stuff.

overall the Guardian is great. when I lived in Toronto, I'd often buy the print edition once or twice a week (even though it cost a stupid amount of money...for a student budget, anyway).
 

IdleRich

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Good to see that Bob Dylan(schneider) is still telling it like it is. It's not NOW hacking that's the story really, it's just hacking in the abstract, blowing in the wind.
 

jenks

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Now Brooks arrested. I know it's been asked before but how does this 'arrested by appointment' work - is it all that common? Would it perhaps explain the resignation on Friday - she knew she was to be arrested on Sunday? Will it affect what she can say on Tuesday?
 

jenks

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I cannot get my head round all of this - a few months ago only the guardian, a handful of mps and some people on twitter and here cared about this - the met said there was no case to answer and the tories had bumped Vince Cable off the BSkyB discussions - now I don't know who is going next.
What a fucking mess.
 

hucks

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And for what? How many extra sales did all the hacking actually get NOTW? It's one thing to bribe police to nobble a rival or something, another to get poxy little stories about celebs, royalty and murder victims.
 
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