Election 2020

[Mr. Tea]

They were let in so they could spread COVID throughout the building, congresspeople be dropping like flies in a minute.

Only the wimpy Demonrats, though. And maybe those treacherous RINO anti-Trump Reps. But the true MAGA Republicans will be immune, because of their energy vibrations.

 

[constant escape]

There's an experimental gas being released into the building.

Is it emanating from a desk drawer?

 

[IdleRich]

That is, in response to the questions of the intelligence of these protesters/invaders. I think many of them don't abide by rationality even in mundane situations, yet alone when they have such a good opportunity to discharge pent up libidinal energy.

I think almost anyone could get caught up in the excitement of a moment like that. For a cranked up Trumpleton redneck the moment when the doors burst open in front of them must have been a semi-religious experience that filled them with bloodlust.

 

[luka]

you know who's coming to town and what they want. So either you make sure you can control them, or you decide to use them, for whatever reason. Some piece of political theatre.

 

[constant escape]

I think almost anyone could get caught up in the excitement of a moment like that. For a cranked up Trumpleton redneck the moment when the doors burst open in front of them must have been a semi-religious experience that filled them with bloodlust.

Yeah that seems totally plausible. Especially when we consider the fringe/extreme actors that happen to be a sort ad hoc vanguard for this crowd, and what they may be equipped with.

 

[luka]

There's clearly been a decision to let them go in building to steal the silverware and turn the tables over but I don't exactly know why. It certainly doesn't look like an earnest attempt at a coup.

 

[constant escape]

There's clearly been a decision to let them go in building to steal the silverware and turn the tables over but I don't exactly know why. It certainly doesn't look like an earnest attempt at a coup.

Start the Steal

 

[constant escape]

But those guards, as anyone endowed with politically substantiated power, reserve some decision-making power to their own discretion, when in some overwhelming experience like this. If someone in such a position harbors sympathy for the protestors/invaders - even if its not enough to override their bureaucratic agency - they may take the opportunity to subtly look the other way, no?

Crazier things are happening.

 

[luka]

Possibly, but it would likely cost them a job. And the decision has been made in advance just in terms of numbers and tactics as Eden pointed out earlier

 

[Mr. Tea]

I think there have to be orders from up top.

Well Trump is still the president for now, let's not forget!

 

[luka]

I dunno if you missed him making that argument but it's here

 

[constant escape]

Yeah I missed that, and thats why I think that window of discretion is critical. Especially when you factor in racial divides.

 

[luka]

I don't think for a minute this has been steered by the lunks on the ground.

 

[luka]

Imagine if Pence got lynched and disembowelled and they'd opened the gate on their own initiative?

 

[constant escape]

I don't think for a minute this has been steered by the lunks on the ground.

But to an extent the testosterone is spread relatively evenly, which is largely the flavor of this particular fuel. A sort of vigilante militia that that can effectively operationalize without central guidance. Just needed the go-ahead from Trump. In that sense, its easy for Trump to abdicate responsibility.

Similar to governments can come to rely on private military contractors.

There is a sort of plausible deniability (if even just legally) involved in employing forces that you don't have full control over or through guidance of, no?

 

[IdleRich]

There's clearly been a decision to let them go in building to steal the silverware and turn the tables over but I don't exactly know why. It certainly doesn't look like an earnest attempt at a coup.

What would a coup even be? It's not like if they seized the building that everyone would go "oh, they've got congress now, there's nothing we can do, they rule the country and we have to do what they say". It's just agitating for Trump cos they think there is a constitutional way to overturn Trump's defeat and that this kind of protest will make people more likely to take those steps.

 

[constant escape]

Nationalist extremists can also operate rhizomatically, especially when you factor in the libertarian elements. Its just paradoxical, because nationalism is traditionally centralized, no?

 

[Leo]

"Stand back and stand by".

 

[luka]

But to an extent the testosterone is spread relatively evenly, which is largely the flavor of this particular fuel. A sort of vigilante militia that that can effectively operationalize without central guidance. Just needed the go-ahead from Trump. In that sense, its easy for Trump to abdicate responsibility.

Similar to governments can come to rely on private military contractors.

There is a sort of plausible deniability (if even just legally) involved in employing forces that you don't have full control over or through guidance of, no?

I don't disagree with that but as Eden points out the decision had already been made to give them the opportunity

 

[Leo]

the woman shot in the Capitol has died.