Russia Surrounded
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- craner boobs disco dasha nekrasova good old obsessive antiamericanism gullfire over leningrad j. h. prynne jamaican voodoo gang from predator 2 my indian mate in year 11 with downs syndrome oliver ukrainer sanctuary of apollo shaka's secret mission snake island the black sea the good old party spirit of desert storm the gust of kiev the russo-ucranerian war wagner man falling out of the sky we're all neocons now whatabouastic whataboutery whataboutish whataboutism whataboutistic who controls the serpent
version
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This account's been suspended now.
I was just respectfully pointing out to version that he shouldn't be so surprised by the extent of contemporary Ukrainian antisemitism, because that kind of poison doesn't disappear very easily. Poland has never really managed to exorcise its cultural antisemitism either, despite the fact that the Nazis and their collaboraters successfully murdered 90% of the Polish Jews. It's not helped by the fact that Eastern and Central European countries have never had to fully account for their own role in the Holocaust because the focus was always on German culpability (quite rightly).
This is not the same as saying that Ukraine is now ruled by neonazis, which has been the Russian propaganda line since 2014 and is a bit rich considering Russia's political culture is closer to classical fascism than Ukraine's was (until today).
version
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I watched the whole thing and it didn't get better.
luka
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you wouldnt say it about the Germans!
version
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Apparently there's at least one neo-Nazi group on the Russian side too,
Neo-Nazi Russian Attack Unit Hints It’s Going Back Into Ukraine Undercover
InstagramOne of the most feared and radical Russian paramilitary groups may have slipped up on social media and revealed its plans to return undercover to Ukraine, where it was accused of committing war crimes during a previous incursion.Task Force Rusich, a Russian mercenary unit which glories...
shakahislop
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it's going to be interesting to watch the cultural fallout from this i think. some portion of the UK public becoming increasingly militaristic. russo-phobia.
if it creates a lot of refugees it will also be interesting to see whether western European publics are more accommodating than they have been for Syrians and other non-white people
if it creates a lot of refugees it will also be interesting to see whether western European publics are more accommodating than they have been for Syrians and other non-white people
version
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There's already a fair bit of Russophobia amongst Remainers.
shakahislop
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i was actually supposed to be there right now, but the trip got cancelled a few days ago (was of course looking less and less likely as time went on anyway). glad i'm not there, but on the other hand I am badly hungover right now after one too many ales at a doom metal gig (YOB), so maybe it would have been better to be over there
shakahislop
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don't worry about luka's laughter. it's directed at me. he's trying to tear me down by refusing to believe my truth
shakahislop
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also i want to talk about this gig and surprisingly there isn't a thread for doom metal. i went with a colleague who is a woman in her 40s who went to see megadeath once and wanted someone to see some metal with. i picked this band YOB coz i've always quite liked the doom thing. and then we went and it was a million times more intense than i expected. properly loud and they were playing properly aggressively, heavy. i thought it would have more of a groove but they were more into that overpowering bass thing. it was brilliant. kind of dark. and surprisingly my mate loved it. i was worried for her when they started, thought it might be a bit much.
yyaldrin
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why were you supposed to be there?
shakahislop
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that's the only reason i mentioned it in my other post. i wanted to talk about it. its all sleight of hand
luka
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he'll just make dark hints about secret service missions behind enemy lines and then mutter that he can't talk about it in public. you know what hes like!
shakahislop
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work, doing some stuff with one of the ministries there. not saying any more because we don't want to get dissensus targeted by a putin DDoS cyber offensive. although i reckon we could fight them off. IQ Magical Thinker 144 was an opening parry from putin and we've done alright with that