The Assassin

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What's exciting about him and I guess dissensus related is he was able to get beyond the universal psychic block of late capitalism. Every American even sus and besier have thought 'what if something like this happened' 4 times a week for the entirety of their adult lives and amazingly it's been the only event our society can't seem to make happen but god dammit he did it he escaped the matrix.
 
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yyaldrin said:
what was that mass shooter book you read again @versh?
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This one?

www.versobooks.com

Heroes

What is the relationship between capitalism and mental health? Through an exhilarating mix of philosophical and psychoanalytical theory and reportage - from the suicide epidemic in Korea to the wave of American mass murders - the prominent Italian thinker Franco Berardi Bifo traces the social...
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This was the rough overview I gave at the time,

versh said:
This Heroes book's great, tbh. Bit reductive, as any narrative will be, but compelling. There's no translator credited, so I assume he wrote it in English himself. Reads pretty smoothly considering it isn't his first language.

He starts off discussing various mass shooters - Aurora 2012, Virginia Tech, Columbine - then tries to unpick the societal currents that can lead to that particular flavour of violence. It's all the kind of thing we've already discussed on here - high finance, atomisation, triumph of the virtual - but it's nicely stitched together.

One thing I like's the way he simplifies then combines Baudrillard and D&G. He uses Baudrillard's thing of the breakdown of referentiality - signs being exchanged for signs rather than real things - and D&G's deterritorialization/reterritorialization - social relations being destroyed and reconstituted - to sketch out a trajectory of abstraction that's being responded to by people attempting to reclaim their identity through things like racism and nationalism. A more developed, contemporary take on what McLuhan's saying in this interview:



Couple of other factors he highlights are 'semiocapitalism' - this is what he calls the current version as he says it's predominantly based around signs, information, and attention now - being at a stage where people think of themselves as winners and losers rather than classes, and that increasingly the young are socialised via machines, that's where they learn a lot of their vocabulary, and it changes the relationship to language, to emotion, etc. when you're doing the equivalent of playing tennis against a wall rather than a partner, especially that early in life. The combination of the two can lead to a certain kind of psychopathy seen in people like the Columbine shooters who were bullied, considered themselves 'losers', retreated into a virtual world of video games, then decided to try to "win" in some sense by lashing out in the warped way that they did.

The outlier so far's Anders Breivik who has a similar profile, but whose crimes were more calculated and ideologically motivated. He uses that as a jumping off point to describe Europe going through the same process of abstraction as the EU pursues the usual agenda of profits over everything and that leading to breakdowns in Greece, etc. and the rise of right wing parties across the continent as people fall back into the old petty tribes and nationalisms.

There's more going on than that, but that's a rough, somewhat disjointed, outline of his argument.
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mixed_biscuits said:
"Late capitalism" is a far leftist mirage; there is no evidence that capitalism is dying.
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Arguments over the term itself aside, I agree with the second part. People have been prophesying the end of capitalism for God knows how long and it's still standing.
 
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What's everyone else think
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Just another American murder? Shooting someone in the back, I mean you’d be gutted as the victim in any afterlife - “I got shot? In the back? And I hadn’t even started running?”

A primer? If it switches school shooters over to healthcare ceo’s so be it yet school shooters aren’t exactly a distinct pathology within dsm guidelines so, to use Troubles parlance, a US class strata within key profiles like your recent victim could find themselves experiencing open season as ‘legitimate targets’

A net gain for the American working class as pvt healthcare firms rush to reform rampant profiteering, the likes of which could be unique even in US history, ie healthcare by the bullet (I can’t bring myself to type maga cummunism)?

A vertiginous purge starting January 21st? Enter stage right, Judge Holden joins the fray ..
 
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Seen a few people remarking on the contrast between what we know about this guy and the guy who had a pop at Trump. The latter's still something of a ghost.
 
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“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
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the real manifesto according to

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In other news...

The CEO of UnitedHealth Group said in a leaked internal video that the insurance company will continue to work to prevent "unnecessary" and "unsafe" care that would strain the health care system.​
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He added that employees should "tune out" criticism of the insurance company, saying that it "does not reflect reality."​
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"There is nobody who did more to try and advance that mission than Brian Thompson. And there are very few people in the history of the U.S. health care industry who had a bigger positive effect on American health care than Brian," Witty said. "We are going to make sure that we not only acknowledge and honor that legacy of Brian, but we'll continue it."​
 
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ok, but that seems like it would be true of people anywhere, or is it more pronounced here because we're so divided?
 
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i can't believe version started a fight with me and then ran away. it was the most aggressive post i've ever seen anyone make on the internet. really offensive. then he deleted it. or maybe sufi has made dissensus so that it auto-moderates anything with a swastika in
 
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