Hip Hop '11

luka

luka

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david drake is the reason i check th i love music rap threads. he keps them all in line and stops them getting too indie.
downloading that trouble mixtape. see what its saying. i prefer being able to watch him twisting his face up and glaring in an intense manner whn im listening to his music though. i find it adds to the experience. might have a go at that fat trel one too. iv been spending too much tim on the intereent the last week or two cos im having a break from getting high and i havent known what to do with myself. should give it a rest cos my eyes and my head are starting to hurt. i dont understand how people with office jobs manage. you hav to do this everryday all day. then come home and go on the internet. fucked up. i worry about it.

dont have anything intresting to say about eminem. spose you all seen this-


i didn't compare boosie to a blues singer sadly. someone else did. cant remember who. did you download the thing martorialist put up? it was very good. he has an amazing catalouge. he is the best of th decade.
 
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CrowleyHead

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Even when they're awful (like the 1st one with Styles P, Papoose and Lupe), those Cyphers are always satisfying.

Trouble is weirdly fascinating. Off-hand, he's got this clear Tupac/Boosie influence, there's his weird stumbles and crashes with his rapping where he seems to deliberately just rush out everything. Also, he's got fairly good hooks and he even attempts a fake-Drake record to 'sorta okay' success. It's honestly a little more interesting than Alley Boy.
 
luka

luka

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tyler album gonna be unlistenable apart from a coupl good songs. thats an authorative statement cos i listened to 5 seconds of each song on amazon last night.

perhaps the blues tradition informs southern rap in a unique way?
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i think you could make a halfway convincing case that speech patterns inform the rap music of each distinct region. that ny rap is the way it is becasue of the way new yorkers talk and so on and so forth.
 
luka

luka

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the pace at which people speak, whether syllables are short and choppy or lazy and drawn out....

so the speech pattns of the south which informs both leadbelly and boosie.... y

ou could expand this and have speech patterns, music, dances, the way in which people walk and dress and eat, etc all being informed by some king of genius loci which expresses itself throughout history in ways which are different according to time period but in some rspects th same.

you could, if you were that way inclined and you could be bothred to flesh out the argument in a way i feel is unnecssary. i think you get the idea.

speaking of the south i want to push the big krit thing a bit becasue i almost missed out on it. i had read a few comments on blogs and stuff that made me feel dismissive of it before i even heard it. people saying its too retro, its just dungeon family kareoke, that type f thing.. so i didnt bother with it but i good friend said i had to hear it and hes right. i think sometimes you get this sort of 'more ig'nant than thou' thing with interenet rap fans which can lead thm to dismiss things which are acutally genuinely vry good.

oh i found poisonous darts tumblr.

Let’s think about this. I’m an early adopter. I’m about 5 years ahead of the game, it’s been documented and proven repeatedly over the years. If I’m fed up with Hip Hop publications and their bullshit lists already then it’s only a matter of time before the general public does.

In 2006, I was putting people onto Dubstep, a kid from Toronto called Drake and this rapper from Pittsburgh named Wiz Khalifa. Now Britney Spears is using Dubstep producers and Drake & Wiz Khalifa are at the Grammy’s and all of the radio. How many things do I need to be right about before people begin to listen? I don’t know if I care to find out to be perfectly honest.
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Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
luka said:
i think sometimes you get this sort of 'more ig'nant than thou' thing with interenet rap fans which can lead thm to dismiss things which are acutally genuinely vry good.
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This is true. Agree with the stuff about how region determines flows etc., very interesting (and applicable to Curren$y, who I've been listening to for the past few days).

I've been off the internet for a few days and burned 'Covert Coup' to CD. Consequentially, I gave it a proper listen and am now falling in love with it. The beats are amazing. I find Curren$y quite a 'hidden depths' rapper, although paradoxically he just SOUNDS good when you first hear him. When you listen to his lyrics, the content is very repetitive and somewhat shallow, but there's an intricacy and flexibility to his flow that underlines it all. I think that drawl of his, and the way he settles so comfortably (apparently nonchalantly) into beats is somewhat deceptive - he can sound like he's not putting much effort in.

My favourite track at the moment:



But a couple come close, notably 'Ventilation' - I love that beat so much and $pitta $pittas so intricately on it, not so much quotable lines as a quotable flow: ''White carpets in my scarface house / no undergarments on my star-faced spouse...'' I mean, he's not really saying much there, nothing particularly witty... Some people have told me in response to me doubting Curren$y that a lot of what he says just sounds good. I think he does have a very musical ear and he uses that drawl of his musically, he drags and accelerates on beats.

I'm trying to stay off the internet a bit more myself, hopefully it goes well but the world of music available online (and discussion of it) keeps dragging me back in.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Also there's that aspirational thing to Curren$y's lyrics which is fairly shallow and Entourage-y (globetrotting in private jets and bagging broadz) but if you let yourself get sucked into it the coolness of it (which can get quite stifling if you approach it more critically) rubs off on you.

Oh and Freddie Gibbs KILLS 'Scottie Pippen'. Gibbs is a rapper who I've seen written off a bit on blogs, perhaps it's that 'ig'nanter than thou' thing luka mentions. Although on ''S. Pippen'' he's basically talking about being a hustler, but in a very intricate way.

Alchemist has got to be in the pantheon making stuff like this.
 
luka

luka

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saw some boy on no jumper pushing this as big krit but better. its not and his justification for not liking the krit is vague and convoluted but this is a lovely pice of music none the less

this is him with freddie gibbs
 
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Corpsey

Corpsey

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Squadda B recommended this mixtape on twitter, listening to it now and so far it seems really good, very reminiscent of that Three Six Mafia 91-94 album, lo-fi and evil/raw sounding, mic low in the mix, endlessly repeated (obscene) lines (''take that dick bitch and stop crying like a little ho''), general sense of drug psychosis. I'm sure its not everybody's cup of tea but I like it.

There's an article on him here, another 19 year old bedroom producer (see also: Lex Luger, Squadda B, Tyler...)! He's from Miami.
 
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Corpsey

Corpsey

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luka said:
and a new freddie gibbs/jeezy from dirty glove bastard for corpsey.
http://hulkshare.com/9jkeb01vxlep
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I like this alot, saw on George Bush Money they were saying he's just doing what Rick Ross does but personally I think he's better than Rick Ross anyway. His voice sounds better, Rick Ross gets on my tits usually. Gibbs is good on it too, need to check more of his stuff out.

The Juicy J and Lex mixtape too! Can't rap just take a month off or something so I can catch up?
 
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daddek

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wait is that the second luger and juicey j mixtape?
Lex's beats stay within the same invariable tight format, so does juicey's flow, it's like the least dynamic partnering imaginable.
The only per track variant is the energy levels they've individually muster, aesthetically each track is actually identical.
And everything non flocka lex luger beat, i cant help but compare it to his work with flocka. & so far Lex x flocka always wins.
 
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daddek

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That spacepurrp dude seems cool, I liked his instrumental tape on youtube, i thought of Oneohtrix when listening to it
Is everything like this going to be written up/off as post-Odd Future? it was happening before and around them no
 
bandshell

bandshell

Grand High Witch
Corpsey said:


Squadda B recommended this mixtape on twitter, listening to it now and so far it seems really good, very reminiscent of that Three Six Mafia 91-94 album, lo-fi and evil/raw sounding, mic low in the mix, endlessly repeated (obscene) lines (''take that dick bitch and stop crying little ho''), general sense of drug psychosis. I'm sure its not everybody's cup of tea but I like it.

There's an article on him here, another 19 year old bedroom producer (see also: Lex Luger, Squadda B, Tyler...)! He's from Miami.
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Quite like that, gonna give the mixtape a go. Cheers.
 
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CrowleyHead

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daddek said:
That spacepurrp dude seems cool, I liked his instrumental tape on youtube, i thought of Oneohtrix when listening to it
Is everything like this going to be written up/off as post-Odd Future? it was happening before and around them no
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Post-Based God is a much more appropriate term. I think more people are just finding it easier to associate intellect with OF, which is fucking dumb, but hey.
 
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