Benny Bunter
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No doubt there's the obvious son/sun homonym to explore too.
The sun goes up and down, for example
The sun goes up and down, for example
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- 100 god damn pages butchering sontag cooking with propane corpsey why are you so thick deaths from bromo-dragonfly enjoy your journey enjoy! everyone! gravity bong happy to help! jamaican voodoo gang from predator 2 lads vs. dudes martin anus prynne is boring as fuck shaun from delaware stoned modernism teat. the albert ayler of the recorder the bee is the messiah the path clears by the use it gets thick as fuck to pollen traitor cow-juice treacle assembled proverb tangle proton west coast dudes
Benny Bunter
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Wait a sec, I'll type it up, I've only read the first five words so far
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DAMSON
hold up close down first-born attain other
mine damask question, am both laden
mason bee hand-written mansion aimed
tight ransom purple gully crime even
festal acumen monsoon in tantrum, one
on both pucker hue for blood on bone
hold up close down first-born attain other
mine damask question, am both laden
mason bee hand-written mansion aimed
tight ransom purple gully crime even
festal acumen monsoon in tantrum, one
on both pucker hue for blood on bone
Benny Bunter
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Dam/ask question
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What a fabulous collection of words
Benny Bunter
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The name damson comes from Middle English damascene, damesene, damasin, damsin,[6] and ultimately from the Latin (prunum) damascenum, "plum of Damascus".[7] One commonly stated theory is that damsons were first cultivated in antiquity in the area around the ancient city of Damascus, capital of modern-day Syria, and were introduced into England by the Romans
Benny Bunter
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Hold up/ransom/crime
Hold up as in rob someone at gunpoint
Hold up as in rob someone at gunpoint
Benny Bunter
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Phrasal verbs are one the reasons why English is the best language in the world, I don't think most other languages really have them (could be wrong here). And Prynne exploits this to the full, and overlaps them with other phrasal verbs. It's absolute genius how he does it.
Something as simple as 'hold up' can mean:
to remain strong or successful
to delay someone or something:
to steal from someone using violence or the threat of violence:
to raise your hand or something that you are holding in your hand:
to continue to operate or be able to do things, esp. after being repaired or being ill:
to offer something or someone as an example:
Not to mention 'hold down', 'uphold', 'let down', 'let up' etc etc. It's an amazingly rich technique of packing so many different meanings and possibilities into two monosyllabic words.
Something as simple as 'hold up' can mean:
to remain strong or successful
to delay someone or something:
to steal from someone using violence or the threat of violence:
to raise your hand or something that you are holding in your hand:
to continue to operate or be able to do things, esp. after being repaired or being ill:
to offer something or someone as an example:
Not to mention 'hold down', 'uphold', 'let down', 'let up' etc etc. It's an amazingly rich technique of packing so many different meanings and possibilities into two monosyllabic words.
Benny Bunter
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I'm sure it does but I don't know what yet. I'm off to bed soon but I'll try and spend some time with it over the weekend. I really, really like this book.
Benny Bunter
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im sure you're onto something with the syria thing. I've noticed a fair bit of stuff in this later work to do with the middle east. There's the abyss poems about migration, and I read parkland the other day that references Yemen and Saudi Arabia. It's probably just one strand though - Orchard seems to me to be a very English setting.
Benny Bunter
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Couldn't help but think of Osama Bin Laden when I saw the word 'laden' in this one tbh.
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Yes, Osama bin Laden married his first wife, Najwa Ghanem, in Latakia, Syria in 1974. They later separated, and Ghanem left Afghanistan on September 9, 2001, two days before the 9/11 attacks.
Bin Laden married at least four other women and had between 20 and 26 children. His other wives included:
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Yes, Osama bin Laden married his first wife, Najwa Ghanem, in Latakia, Syria in 1974. They later separated, and Ghanem left Afghanistan on September 9, 2001, two days before the 9/11 attacks.
Bin Laden married at least four other women and had between 20 and 26 children. His other wives included:
- Khadijah Sharif, married in 1983 and divorced in the 1990s
- Khairiah Sabar, married in 1985
- Siham Sabar, married in 1987
- Amal al-Sadah, married in 2000
Benny Bunter
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Here's how it has to do with the fruit itself. (Words from poem in bold)
First, it's a purple fruit.
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Damsons are small, ovoid, plum-like fruit with a distinctive, somewhat astringent taste.
An astringent is a chemical that shrinks or constricts body tissues. The word derives from the Latin adstringere, which means "to bind fast". Astringency, the dry, puckering or numbing mouthfeel caused by the tannins[1][2] in unripe fruits, lets the fruit mature by deterring eating.
Which therefore also links to tight.
Acumen
"quickness of perception, keen insight," 1530s, from Latin acumen "a point, sting," hence, figuratively, "mental sharpness, shrewdness," from acuere "to sharpen," literal and figurative (of intellect, emotion, etc.), related to acus "a needle" (from PIE root *ak- "be sharp, rise (out) to a point, pierce")
Proto-Indo-European root meaning "be sharp, rise (out) to a point, pierce."It forms all or part of: acacia; acanthus; accipiter; acer; acerbic; acerbity; acervate; acervulus; acescent; acetic; acid...
So the fruit's sharp, acidic taste that makes your mouth tighten and pucker up.
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Damsons are usually made into jam.
The Mason jar (by 1868), a type of molded glass jar with an airtight screw lid, used for home preserves, is named for John L. Mason of New York, who patented it in 1858.
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The sun also rises
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I've been passively following this thread not sure whether you guys were creatively hallucinating but the connections here with prunes/pruning, plums, orchards is very compelling
There's an ethnomethodologist, I forget his name, Charles something. He talks about how pattern recognition proceeds by a series of pointers and confirmers. The first time something happens maybe it's a coincidence but it raises your eyebrows. The second time it happens you say, OK, so something is definitely going on here