Art vs Design

[Corpsey]

Isn't it a grotesque distortion of his actual face? Or he's pulling a grotesque face. If he just sat there and got photographed you'd think this guy looks like he works at Games Workshop.

 

[pattycakes_]

Look at Rick Owens

 

[Corpsey]

I'm sort of in favour of it really, I hate seeing a picture of a producer of some tune I've really loved and they look like the dictionary definition of "some bloke".

 

[pattycakes_]

Speaking of games workshop

 

[Corpsey]

Rap music became very fashionista in recent years, presumably under Kanye's influence. Not sure that's the same thing as graphic design exactly.

 

[Corpsey]

Does make me wonder what the internet's role in this is. Like what kind of look sticks out on an Instagram feed, for example.

But it's hard to say cos fashion has always changed quickly under the media spotlight, possibly the internet just accelerated it.

 

[pattycakes_]

Rap music became very fashionista in recent years, presumably under Kanye's influence. Not sure that's the same thing as graphic design exactly.

Once the money was gained in the Puffy era the next step was to swim in it. Started off with Armani and moved on to Comme des Garçons

 

[pattycakes_]

Skinny jeans were a turning point

 

[pattycakes_]

I'm sort of in favour of it really, I hate seeing a picture of a producer of some tune I've really loved and they look like the dictionary definition of "some bloke".

Does make me wonder what the internet's role in this is. Like what kind of look sticks out on an Instagram feed, for example.

But it's hard to say cos fashion has always changed quickly under the media spotlight, possibly the internet just accelerated it.

The Internet democratised pro presentation. This kind of style mostly existed on catwalks and in magazines before now. Beauty and the money to be able to afford the clothes mark the hierarchy

 

[luka]

the internet did and it also facilitated fashion coming to the high st which is absolutely huge. the hipster was disseminated by h&m and topshop

 

[luka]

people were always interested in clothes but it was more ground up rather than the top down wear what we tell you to model that came in with the high st fashion era

 

[pattycakes_]

Evisu jeans, custom Nikes

Japan's influence can't be understated

 

[luka]

Evisu jeans, custom Nikes

Japan's influence can't be understated

that was an earlier acid jazz iteration though. its wasnt democratic was it. it was exclusive.

 

[luka]

the thing about the hipster thing is it was fashion democratised. everyone could wear it cos h&m was selling it at £13 per item.

 

[pattycakes_]

that was an earlier acid jazz iteration though. its wasnt democratic was it. it was exclusive.

Right, pre Internet. James Lavelle. But seeds were being sown

 

[luka]

there were different tribes in the olden days like the pristine white reebok classic, ralph lauren shirt plus burlington jacket crew. definitetly cared about clothes in a big way but it was a different thing.

 

[pattycakes_]

Right, pre Internet. But seeds were being sown

Ultimately leading to things like

Nick Wooster: Sneaker Culture Is the Most Democratic Subculture in Fashion

Nick Wooster, following his partnership with The Onitsuka, gives us valuable insight on Japan and sneaker culture as a whole.

www.highsnobiety.com

 

[luka]

high level fetishisation knowing the names of all the designers for the nike shoes.

 

[pattycakes_]

there were different tribes in the olden days like the pristine white reebok classic, ralph lauren shirt plus burlington jacket crew. definitetly cared about clothes in a big way but it was a different thing.

The younger generation swerved toward the avant but remain stunted. Now they read thinkpieces on sneaker collectors and get exited about new Yeezy drops. It's the old world through an infantilised lens.

 

[luka]

on the other hand theyre way more intelligent than us and they know everything in the universe. i often think of that great thunberg quote when i think of the young internet reared people. autism is my superpower.