thirdform

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it was around the same time. i almost convinced myself he was. im still not sure he's not one

the best coppers are those who are forced (in spite of themselves) by the communist party to conduct organising work, draft reports, number crunch. You can report to your bosses, sure, but you have no executive decision making process. I like to think of mr. tea as this kind of copper.

That is the weakness of UK anarchists. consensus decision making and vans, so when a cop says let's blow shit up, they are not reprimanded for disciplinary violations.
 

Leo

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reminds me of "line of duty", they always refer to corrupt policemen as "bent coppers". what a great expression. is mr. tea bent?
 

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the best coppers are those who are forced (in spite of themselves) by the communist party to conduct organising work, draft reports, number crunch. You can report to your bosses, sure, but you have no executive decision making process. I like to think of mr. tea as this kind of copper.

That is the weakness of UK anarchists. consensus decision making and vans, so when a cop says let's blow shit up, they are not reprimanded for disciplinary violations.

It's so useful to have you around to explain these things.
 

thirdform

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I corrupted him, y'see.

Gus is on the road to corruption. we just need to break his ilxisms and then he is ours!
 
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ok ok, this is an interesting contention. But isn't this a bit like masturbating? It is no secret that after a while every man dislikes climaxing. We like to think of ourselves as intellectual, conscious human beings, not repetitious machines. Could not one argue that the pop state is exactly this? How long can said ecstatic state hold?
I think it's much better than that. The highs are existential. More like MDMA than coke. If you're able to listen to them totally un-self-consciously, the way teenage girls are able to, because their social demographic identity is sanctioned to enjoy them unself-consciously, they put you in a mood of pure joy, heartache, whatever's sad is sad in a wistful joi de vivre way, it's completely unambivalent, all for nothing, a value clarity you don't often get in adulthood. In that way I'd say pop music is more like video games. The songs alternate holding patterns and explosion, tension and release. The Lana rollercoaster, beautiful and capital-R Romantic and deluded, lovesick, melody-drunk.

It's sad to forego these kinds of joyful, unabashed experiences because they're considered wrong and uncool or unsophisticated in light of social demographic or personal identity notion.

Very Protestant actually, except instead of God you sacrifice for self-concept.
 

line b

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I think it's much better than that. The highs are existential. More like MDMA than coke. If you're able to listen to them totally un-self-consciously, the way teenage girls are able to, because their social demographic identity is sanctioned to enjoy them unself-consciously, they put you in a mood of pure joy, heartache, whatever's sad is sad in a wistful joi de vivre way, it's completely unambivalent, all for nothing, a value clarity you don't often get in adulthood. In that way I'd say pop music is more like video games. The songs alternate holding patterns and explosion, tension and release. The Lana rollercoaster, beautiful and capital-R Romantic and deluded, lovesick, melody-drunk.

It's sad to forego these kinds of joyful, unabashed experiences because they're considered wrong and uncool or unsophisticated in light of social demographic or personal identity notion.

Very Protestant actually, except instead of God you sacrifice for self-concept.
this is the exact psychology of a perversion. exact
 

Leo

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I think it's much better than that. The highs are existential. More like MDMA than coke. If you're able to listen to them totally un-self-consciously, the way teenage girls are able to, because their social demographic identity is sanctioned to enjoy them unself-consciously, they put you in a mood of pure joy, heartache, whatever's sad is sad in a wistful joi de vivre way, it's completely unambivalent, all for nothing, a value clarity you don't often get in adulthood. In that way I'd say pop music is more like video games. The songs alternate holding patterns and explosion, tension and release. The Lana rollercoaster, beautiful and capital-R Romantic and deluded, lovesick, melody-drunk.

It's sad to forego these kinds of joyful, unabashed experiences because they're considered wrong and uncool or unsophisticated in light of social demographic or personal identity notion.

Very Protestant actually, except instead of God you sacrifice for self-concept.

subconsciously confronting mortality, looking for ways to reclaim youthful lost innocence.
 

thirdform

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I think it's much better than that. The highs are existential. More like MDMA than coke. If you're able to listen to them totally un-self-consciously, the way teenage girls are able to, because their social demographic identity is sanctioned to enjoy them unself-consciously, they put you in a mood of pure joy, heartache, whatever's sad is sad in a wistful joi de vivre way, it's completely unambivalent, all for nothing, a value clarity you don't often get in adulthood. In that way I'd say pop music is more like video games. The songs alternate holding patterns and explosion, tension and release. The Lana rollercoaster, beautiful and capital-R Romantic and deluded, lovesick, melody-drunk.

It's sad to forego these kinds of joyful, unabashed experiences because they're considered wrong and uncool or unsophisticated in light of social demographic or personal identity notion.

Very Protestant actually, except instead of God you sacrifice for self-concept.

But you are coyly avoiding my main point. MDMA stops working after a while. It stopped working for me around the age of 23, I only got a 30 min rush on the come up, and then it is just a standard amphetamine buzz. You see the problem is Americans don't actually know how to do MDMA en masse, that's why they've never gotten into house music, despite inventing the bloody thing!

I take umbrage with the suggestion that anti-poptimism is protestant, that would equate protestantism to the fall, which is obviously false. Your roadmap essenttially wants to be prepubescent, as if you are innocent and have never fucked someone like an unselfconscious, brutish, rabid dog. I find this disavowal itself deplorable after a certain point. It's got nothing to do with foresaking experiences, for instance I can still enjoy the (good) drug crazed bubblegum bits of happy hardcore or Melt Banana, Gong, etc. It's the idea that you can close your eyes to the fact that you are no longer 14. Is that really possible for the whites? Tim Finney can also do it.
 

thirdform

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this is why I told barty to abstain from sex. He's turned it into a secular religion, when really it's just rocking back and forth until an involuntary muscle spasm. It is not the highest form of ecstasy, no matter what some new age salvia merchant may tell you. Part of sexual repression is not knowing when to stop. alhamdulillah I have never had this problem.
 

thirdform

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the führer allows you leisure, drinking, smoking, sex, pleasure, but as it is all sublimated into the future of the volksgemeinschaft, its pleasure without its accompanying psychological penalties.

If you think this is outlandish, remember that a lot of socialists of the 1920s and 1930s were temperance freaks.
 
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