rubberdingyrapids

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Was curious if the abel ferrara biopic on pasolini was good but i imagine it being a bit lacking and thin. I forgot i saw Salo too but not sure what i really made of it but remember reading the shit they ate was chocolate which made me feel better
 

version

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Was curious if the abel ferrara biopic on pasolini was good but i imagine it being a bit lacking and thin.

I went in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. It feels a bit cheap and there was one particular scene I didn't like, but I loved it overall. The ending hits like a ton of bricks. There was a point at which I thought it would end, but I understood why he hadn't ended it there once I saw the actual ending.
 

Murphy

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For a microsecond I had the flicker of “you put this in the Antonioni thread” fugue clearance
 

kid charlemagne

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@version i read thru the first half of that in danger book today. i like the poetry quite a bit more than the provacations. the latter arent bad, but its just odd approaching and reading them in this day and age. the circumstances and political atmosphere feel so departed from the world i live in. i will say tho it is quite interesting reading about his experiences in america, and how much he seems to look down on us.
 

version

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@version i read thru the first half of that in danger book today. i like the poetry quite a bit more than the provacations. the latter arent bad, but its just odd approaching and reading them in this day and age. the circumstances and political atmosphere feel so departed from the world i live in. i will say tho it is quite interesting reading about his experiences in america, and how much he seems to look down on us.

I liked the essays much more than the poetry. There was a line from one of the poems that stuck with me - "I dream of weapons hidden in the mud," - but it's the essays that really left a mark. They are more interesting historically though, I suppose. They're very rooted in his Italy.

Have you seen the short film Agnes Varda made of him in New York?

 

kid charlemagne

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tweets from kanye and carti apparently lol
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version

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Some on the Italian right have recently tried to claim Pasolini as a conservative. It's mentioned in the LRB article I posted in 'Italian Election'.

At the party’s 2013 gathering in Rome, images of John Paul II, Thatcher, Gandhi and Mother Teresa were projected beside those of bona fide fathers of fascism such as D’Annunzio and Marinetti. The 2022 congress displayed cardboard cut-outs of Hannah Arendt, the Fellini collaborator Ennio Flaiano and Pasolini, whom the FdI has claimed as a conservative.​
I suppose you could fashion that sort of argument out of some combination of his interest in Christianity and criticism of globalisation, but you're still talking about a gay communist.
 
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