Clinamenic
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Malick ostensibly draws from Antonioni pretty heavily, with the existential meandering characters, often involving the men playfully pursuing the women. I recall L'avenntura being pretty good, for a movie about nothing.
Films you've seen recently and would unreservedly recommend:
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rubberdingyrapids
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the antonioni films everyone raves about are the ones he made after making more accessible/enjoyable films like that one.
Clinamenic
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Interesting, don't think I've seen any of his earlier ones.
Corpsey
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Just watched Fincher's "The Killer" and loved it. Had its corny moments for sure and its the usual shallow, nihilistic view of the world that Fincher deals in (managing to make living in a Dominican Republic paradise look depressing) buuuut
Leaving aside how tight and technically brilliant it's great to see a Jason Bourne film starring what a Jason Bourne type guy probably would be like IRL. (Or James Bond without any charm.) Also seems like a satire on the self-help/masculine motto memorisation culture, the obsession (that works perfectly as a theme for Fincher, and helps make it a genuinely thrilling actionthriller) with efficiency, detail, etc.
Best Fincher since "Gone Girl".
Leaving aside how tight and technically brilliant it's great to see a Jason Bourne film starring what a Jason Bourne type guy probably would be like IRL. (Or James Bond without any charm.) Also seems like a satire on the self-help/masculine motto memorisation culture, the obsession (that works perfectly as a theme for Fincher, and helps make it a genuinely thrilling actionthriller) with efficiency, detail, etc.
Best Fincher since "Gone Girl".
John Wick with OCD
rubberdingyrapids
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it had good american psycho narration. I found it dull overall though. I usually like anything he does too.
Corpsey
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In a sense the problems I had with it were when it wasn't boring enough. The larger than life elements (Tilda Swinton the arch assassin) felt like a wrong turn after the gripping banality of the opening, sniper in the wework.
It reminded me of "possessor", another film I really loved (and I wonder how powerful an influence on this my own sense of loneliness is). The hollowness of the assassin's life, despite the thrill of the action of it. A cliche, I suppose.
And as always (it seems to me) Fincher doesn't show us an alternative to this alienation, this shallowness. (As with Possessor, really.) But that's perhaps like complaining that we don't get a vision of the virtuous life in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
It reminded me of "possessor", another film I really loved (and I wonder how powerful an influence on this my own sense of loneliness is). The hollowness of the assassin's life, despite the thrill of the action of it. A cliche, I suppose.
And as always (it seems to me) Fincher doesn't show us an alternative to this alienation, this shallowness. (As with Possessor, really.) But that's perhaps like complaining that we don't get a vision of the virtuous life in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
Influenced by reading Roger Fry, I suppose that it's not showing you the whole of life, but it's isolating some of its more depressing elements so we can feel them more intensely.
But I feel like the depressing things it highlights are true to life, to my life, anyway. And to many people's I suspect.
Anyway this is an argument conducted with myself at 12.40am.
But I feel like the depressing things it highlights are true to life, to my life, anyway. And to many people's I suspect.
Anyway this is an argument conducted with myself at 12.40am.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
I was also seduced by the procedural fetishism of the killer, I paused it about halfway through to cook dinner and I was rearranging my cupboards to be more efficient, so if another assassin broke in I'd be able to reach the frying pan in seconds.
And you notice, thinking like that, that your problems outside of the sequence to be completed fade away. (But not really.) It's like playing video games. Simplifying everything. It shuts some of the sadness out but also ofc shuts it in.
Remake the film as "the gamer" imo
And you notice, thinking like that, that your problems outside of the sequence to be completed fade away. (But not really.) It's like playing video games. Simplifying everything. It shuts some of the sadness out but also ofc shuts it in.
Remake the film as "the gamer" imo
Excellent choice. Although Antonioni is all Italian, I don’t see a lot of French in him. It was Bertolucci who made the unforgivable error of trying to be like Godard.
Ferdinando Sarmi, who designed the amazing gowns that Lucia Bosè wears, is actually in the film. He plays the cuckold husband.
rubberdingyrapids
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one of the few accurate killer reviews.
www.nytimes.com
i feel like fincher fans love it, as it lets them wax about his auteurism. but as a film its just prosaic, not even interestingly mundane.
‘The Killer’ Review: He’s a Deadly Bore
Michael Fassbender stars as a loquaciously dull hit man in David Fincher’s latest film about bloody exploits.
rubberdingyrapids
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this was pretty incredible.
i didnt know what procedures they were doing half the time but it was fascinating, gruesome, but also just aesthetically amazing.
its from the directors who did leviathan.
a shame this wasnt released in cinemas, it could be a weird cult item.
rubberdingyrapids
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yep
maxi
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and it's hilarious cos he's constantly fucking up and breaking all his own carefully disciplined rules
entertainment
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You've Got Mail.
Watched it on the plane last week. Very charming movie.
Watched it on the plane last week. Very charming movie.