i reckon their sales of that album would have gone up though as a result of being nominated, by curious music fans who would have otherwise not heard it, which is a good thing.
Burial "Untrue"
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i reckon their sales of that album would have gone up though as a result of being nominated, by curious music fans who would have otherwise not heard it, which is a good thing.
also i think a distributor can nominate with the labels consent, it costs to enter tho.
jonny mugwump
exotic pylon
Yeah i'm glad he didn't win tbh- i watched and i was getting sucked into it but what does any award mean ever and the mercury seems to be especially brilliant at ruining careers.
also, what little we know about him, i really don't see that the increased exposure would bring anything other than trauma to somebody who has no interest in the public side of recording music.
I mean come on, the guy was reluctant to even publish his name or photo- can you imagine the shite that would have resulted from him winning the bloody thing.
also, what little we know about him, i really don't see that the increased exposure would bring anything other than trauma to somebody who has no interest in the public side of recording music.
I mean come on, the guy was reluctant to even publish his name or photo- can you imagine the shite that would have resulted from him winning the bloody thing.
that's interesting. that might make more sense, acquiescence rather than positive pursuit on the part of Kode 9. to clarify i hope it doesn't seem like i'm being disrespectful, it is perhaps not my place to speculate on his intentions. i am just intrigued (because i place such high value on what he does) and also interested in discussion, although more so on the latter half of my original post
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
Yeah, I think the shortlist is a lot more important than the actual winner for prizes like this (and also for art / literature type prizes). Getting a jury of half a dozen people to pick the best album of the year by some sort of weird debate / consesus / vote / shouting match approach is never going to give you a particularly enlightening result, but getting them to pick a dozen albums that they think more people should check out has a bit more purpose, even if they do miss some corkers.
Tbh, with my vaguely hippyish hat on, if there are some people getting enjoyment out of music that they wouldn't otherwise have heard of (particularly when some of that is music that I find really exciting myself) I don't think I can quibble that there should have been more psy-grindcore or tech-sludge-hop on the shortlist. Plus a nomination means press coverage, promo stands in HMV, and basically a fat stack more sales, and people like Burial / Hyperdub getting a big pile more money is something I can't be too pissed off about.
I remember at the time it seemed incredible and quite important that Dizzee win it - that seemed a real bolt out of the blue. But this being Burial's 2nd album and everything, I couldn't raise much enthusiasm.
Slothrop you are right about short/long lists - something like the Samuel Johnson prize list is really worth digging around in each year.
Slothrop you are right about short/long lists - something like the Samuel Johnson prize list is really worth digging around in each year.
mos dan
fact music
i knew i wasn't the only one who was gutted at how criminally under-represented tech-sludge-hop was this year. fucking typical.
childrentalking
Well-known member
wouldn't winning the award have increased the chances of music industry types noticing all the uncleared, major artist, big ticket vocal samples on the record?
slackk
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Wish I'd saved that list of samples on dubstepforum when I had the chance.
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
I wondered that, to be honest though as its been nominated they've probably all listened to it already.
you're making an assumption that they're big name and uncleared, i guess only hyperdub know what they are really.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
I know they're the nicest guys in the industry and all that, but they're not new music or cutting edge, are they? Stupid awards.
straight
wings cru
yeah, i asked the same question a while back and someone close to the hyperdub lot confirmed most had been cleared after the record came out.
Personally I don't really have a problem with Elbow winning, they are a decent bunch of lads. I've always enjoyed Guy Garvey's radio show on xfm manchester, always bashing out tom waits and leonard cohen for them sunday afternoon blues. I have found their music bland in the past but friends who are fans have told me its their most crafted and varied work to date. Plus they part own one of my favourite bars in manc, Big Hands, which contains some of the worst toilets and sexiest, crazy barmaids you are ever likely to lay eyes on.
And as for giving it to radiohead, pull yourself together man.
Personally I don't really have a problem with Elbow winning, they are a decent bunch of lads. I've always enjoyed Guy Garvey's radio show on xfm manchester, always bashing out tom waits and leonard cohen for them sunday afternoon blues. I have found their music bland in the past but friends who are fans have told me its their most crafted and varied work to date. Plus they part own one of my favourite bars in manc, Big Hands, which contains some of the worst toilets and sexiest, crazy barmaids you are ever likely to lay eyes on.
And as for giving it to radiohead, pull yourself together man.
didn't know that it was a good blokes you could go out for a beer with competition but there you go.
they certainly look like they like alot of beer.