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  • LSD and related: Shrooms / Mescaline / DMT

    Votes: 17 40.5%
  • MDMA / Ecstasy

    Votes: 15 35.7%
  • Heroin

    Votes: 2 4.8%
  • Cocaine

    Votes: 6 14.3%
  • Other (GHB, K, etc)

    Votes: 2 4.8%

  • Total voters
    42
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nomadologist

Guest
groupthink is very important on a trip, it's all about hivemind. if you're with assholes, you will have a bad trip.

i would've babysat ya bass!
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
groupthink is very important on a trip, it's all about hivemind. if you're with assholes, you will have a bad trip.

i would've babysat ya bass!

Therein lies the rub. Especially at that time I was totally unwilling to agree with other people, too arrogant to give in, way too negative and cynical to allow them in.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
Sounds like my first few trips...luckily i was with highly experienced trippers...they'd just play with my hair and hold my hand or something till i felt better.

I realized I was uptight about it because I'd heard all these legends... my dad and my uncle once get in a "scissors" fight tripping and the scissors went through my dad's foot.
 
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gek-opel

entered apprentice
Yeah first time I was with a serious schizophrenic fresh out of a stay in the local mental hospital, his girlfriend and his brother, (who was the only one I really knew). BAD VIBES assured, in essence. But as you were saying before Nomad, there is certainly jouissance in unpleasantness.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
Wow if you're schizo and you've been hospitalized for it it's probably a bad idea to trip to begin with, not to mention the haldol or whatever he was probably shot with probably didn't interact so well with the acid...whoa.

You would have a good trip if you tripped with the Nomadologist :)
 

bassnation

the abyss
Sounds like my first few trips...luckily i was with highly experienced trippers...they'd just play with my hair and hold my hand or something till i felt better.

I realized I was uptight about it because I'd heard all these legends... my dad and my uncle once get in a "scissors" fight tripping and the scissors went through my dad's foot.

one of my mates and his friend (who was an off-duty police officer) once took 1000 mushrooms in his flat in south wales. his mate freaked out completely. they were listening to dark side of the moon and his friend thought someone had cut off his penis. he was taking his trousers down and shouting "its gone!". he was advised to go to the bathroom and put some cold water on his face. by this point they could see lots of oddly coloured flora and fauna floating outside the window (this was a 3rd floor flat). my friend gets this funny thought that the bad trip guy is going to stab him out of nowhere.

anyway, he tried to comfort him as he was frantically putting cold water on his face and all of a sudden he turns round and says "if you don't get your fucking hand off my back i'm going to stab you". they ended up in separate rooms with my friend baracading the door and his girlfriend arriving home from work wondering what the fuck was going on.

these were the some of the same people i was with that night.
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
Wow if you're schizo and you've been hospitalized for it it's probably a bad idea to trip to begin with, not to mention the haldol or whatever he was probably shot with probably didn't interact so well with the acid...whoa.

You would have a good trip if you tripped with the Nomadologist :)

Actually (and weirdly) the only time on psychedelics it was all good was with my friend (who has since done jailtime/become schizophrenic himself) cos he actually understood the level of sensitivity involved (this was on the Hawaiian Baby Woodrose- which almost give the illusion of telepathy under the right circumstances though analytically they just speed up your brain function massively- hence incredible time dilation effects and ultra-sensitivity to stimuli).
 
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nomadologist

Guest
That kid in the picture who was my housemate, with the LV cape on and the Native American t-shirt, he and I get together just to trip sometimes! He is good vibes all the way, we can just sit in one spot and talk for 12 hours.

He's the first one I texted after I heard the Burial album, like you have to hear this!!
 
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nomadologist

Guest
Actually (and weirdly) the only time on psychedelics it was all good was with my friend (who has since done jailtime/become schizophrenic himself) cos he actually understood the level of sensitivity involved (this was on the Hawaiian Baby Woodrose- which almost give the illusion of telepathy under the right circumstances though analytically they just speed up your brain function massively- hence incredible time dilation effects and ultra-sensitivity to stimuli).

Though I would never pass judgment from afar on this friend's condition, I do think that the medical "establishment" sometimes misdiagnoses people who have had psychedelic experiences with schizophrenia when really they have a social anxiety or panic disorder that preceeded the hallucinogenic experiences. This is because there's simply no frame of reference for understanding these experiences "rationally"/medically, so if one is honest with doctors, and uses anything like acid-speak in front of them, you're going to get labelled right quick.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
Never heard of the Wood Rose, is it hard on your stomach like peyote and those plant-derivative tryptamines?
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
Never heard of the Wood Rose, is it hard on your stomach like peyote and those plant-derivative tryptamines?

um its covered in cyanide! You have to scrape that shit off... and yes you get hideous dry heaves where you imagine you have poisoned yourself. Its the most rituaistic/shamanistic drug ive found...
 
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nomadologist

Guest
Wow that sounds really dangerous!! Too dangerous even for me. I might even have to draw a line right there:eek:

I think I finally found my "boundary". FINALLY!

Gek you're a badass!
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
Wow that sounds really dangerous!! Too dangerous even for me. I might even have to draw a line right there:eek:

Yeah and in the "slow hour" right in the middle you better be having a good time! Cos that shit dra-a-a-ags out... I don't reckon they're THAT dangerous. but best to get a full settled meal in yourself before taking. Also they seemed to have effects which after a certain point became MORE conventional the higher the dose. Very very odd. Trip ratio 25% very good to 75% bad to nightmarishly bad... including one where another friend of mine had a breakdown and had to go for a walk... and we had to keep calling him to make sure he didn't throw himself off a fucking cliff.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
I think I'm unduly afraid of poisons because my dad was always very aware of chemistry and the potential for kids to do stupid things and get hurt, so he was very strict about locking up the cleaners and things in my house. Now it's a neurotic tick of mine to be afraid of cross-contamination.

On sheet acid, I notice a lot of times the more I took, the more it became a "paint-by-numbers" experience where I was even seeing those fucking Grateful Dead dancing bears!! Torturous.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Yeah and in the "slow hour" right in the middle you better be having a good time! Cos that shit dra-a-a-ags out... I don't reckon they're THAT dangerous. but best to get a full settled meal in yourself before taking. Also they seemed to have effects which after a certian point became MORE conventional the higher the dose. Very very odd.

I've taken these little buggers too, I don't know about containing 'cyanide' (Wiki says not, apparently) but they can certainly give you an upset tummy. They can give you an upset head too, especially if you take them late at night while tired and already a bit drunk, like I did. *slaps self at the memory*

They contain LSA, which is pretty similar to LSD (chemically, at any rate). It's also the main psychoative in ergot.

Edit: Wiki says they contain glycosides which can be broken down into cyanide by stomach enzymes. So it's kind of half-true.
 
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gek-opel

entered apprentice
I think I'm unduly afraid of poisons because my dad was always very aware of chemistry and the potential for kids to do stupid things and get hurt, so he was very strict about locking up the cleaners and things in my house. Now it's a neurotic tick of mine to be afraid of cross-contamination.

On sheet acid, I notice a lot of times the more I took, the more it became a "paint-by-numbers" experience where I was even seeing those fucking Grateful Dead dancing bears!! Torturous.

Yeah... remember having a fucking lucid conversation about how I detested drugs in a very matter of fact manner whilst the full on salvador Dali/Alice in wonderland shit was occurring around me... in tiresomely predictable manner. Almost normal, in a sense.
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
I've taken these little buggers too, I don't know about containing 'cyanide' (Wiki says not, apparently) but they can certainly give you an upset tummy. They can give you an upset head too, especially if you take them late at night while tired and already a bit drunk, like I did. *slaps self at the memory*

They contain LSA, which is pretty similar to LSD. It's also the main psychoative in ergot.

Yes. LSA that was it. Quite distinct to LSD in effect tho. They used to be legal as quite obscure in this country. My mate reckoned "the Hawaiians take them like we do E" (!!!)
 
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