Hang on both of these may be marketed as such, but they really aren't at all. You don't want to be monged out watching Adult Swim or drooling on a sofa in opiated bliss... (well you might but for the sake of this argument- you don't...) in a sense such a concept drug would be entirely dependant for pleasurable affect on external stimuli, maybe by destroying expectation by temporarily/selectively wiping out memories associated with things, so that whilst you were on it everything was as fresh and new as for a child...?
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Hang on both of these may be marketed as such, but they really aren't at all. You don't want to be monged out watching Adult Swim or drooling on a sofa in opiated bliss... (well you might but for the sake of this argument- you don't...) in a sense such a concept drug would be entirely dependant for pleasurable affect on external stimuli, maybe by destroying expectation by temporarily/selectively wiping out memories associated with things, so that whilst you were on it everything was as fresh and new as for a child...?
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Ahh ok, you mean more what Aristotle called "wonder"...
or I don't know I kind of feel this way on acid, everything is actually fun to experience rather than deathly boring
ESP TV. On acid, all TV looks like porn.
or I don't know I kind of feel this way on acid, everything is actually fun to experience rather than deathly boring
ESP TV. On acid, all TV looks like porn.
bassnation
the abyss
Ahh ok, you mean more what Aristotle called "wonder"...
or I don't know I kind of feel this way on acid, everything is actually fun to experience rather than deathly boring
ESP TV. On acid, all TV looks like porn.
i can't watch tv on drugs, too confusing and disjointed - plus its more fun to talk anyway. i hardly turn the damn thing on these days.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
I was going to say, although I don't think weed 'lowers expectations' exactly. It's more like it helps you to appreciate the present moment and the good things in life - music, food, sex, laughing, thinking.thats weed you just described there. even reduced stimuli (sat watching tv stoned) seems more pleasurable. weird thing too, when i've done coke in the past, i never feel like smoking.
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nomadologist
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Yeah, that's why it can be beneficial to take valium or heroin with it-- so all you see is the atmosphere heavy with all the magical qualities in that get sucked out by KKKapitalism (haha) usually.
If you take enough at once, you lose the anxiety. I'm thinking you did really speedy harsh stuff.
Liquid floats up into your brain really slowly and it makes your body feel great.
If you take enough at once, you lose the anxiety. I'm thinking you did really speedy harsh stuff.
Liquid floats up into your brain really slowly and it makes your body feel great.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
Watching TV is bound to be a huge waste of good drugs.
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nomadologist
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i can't watch tv on drugs, too confusing and disjointed - plus its more fun to talk anyway. i hardly turn the damn thing on these days.
I hate TV. I can't watch it. Even if I sit in front of it my mind wanders and I just get up and do anything, anything rather than watch TV.
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nomadologist
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Watching TV is bound to be a huge waste of good drugs.
I've never watched TV on purpose on drugs, just walked by places with tons of screens in the window, or gone to someone else's place and everyone was watching TV.
It was harsh 10x strength microdots (the first time)
I enjoyed the harshness of the experience though, the sheer fucking terror being pretty much what I anticipated (ie mentally raping yourself)... complete psychedelic paranoia at the level of language itself, followed by the dissolution of all external reality entirely into a real internalised horrorshow...
I enjoyed the harshness of the experience though, the sheer fucking terror being pretty much what I anticipated (ie mentally raping yourself)... complete psychedelic paranoia at the level of language itself, followed by the dissolution of all external reality entirely into a real internalised horrorshow...
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nomadologist
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Hahaha "raping yourself"
This reminds me of this one time I took a bunch of mushrooms with a couple of my really really REALLY gay male friends, one of them a total queen who listened to Cher all day every day.
Well, for the entire trip, they kept calling anything round or cavernous a "pussy" and drawing "people" that were essentially heads with martini glasses for bodies.
They also made me go to a restaurant with them to get drinks, a really nice one, and I got kicked out!! imagine that...
This reminds me of this one time I took a bunch of mushrooms with a couple of my really really REALLY gay male friends, one of them a total queen who listened to Cher all day every day.
Well, for the entire trip, they kept calling anything round or cavernous a "pussy" and drawing "people" that were essentially heads with martini glasses for bodies.
They also made me go to a restaurant with them to get drinks, a really nice one, and I got kicked out!! imagine that...
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
I think first or second time I took acid at a friend's house I tried watching a bit of an early episode of Baywatch. It was completely boring.I've never watched TV on purpose on drugs, just walked by places with tons of screens in the window, or gone to someone else's place and everyone was watching TV.
Did enjoy watching stuff like those Frank Zappa plasticine animations and Robot Monster at an ATP festival once. But it's not really weird when you are expecting weird.
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nomadologist
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I don't know about the other suckabrains here, but I think microdots suck, especially in terms of quality if not strength of experience.
bassnation
the abyss
It was harsh 10x strength microdots (the first time)
I enjoyed the harshness of the experience though, the sheer fucking terror being pretty much what I anticipated (ie mentally raping yourself)... complete psychedelic paranoia at the level of language itself, followed by the dissolution of all external reality entirely into a real internalised horrorshow...
that sounds like my experiences on it, even on half a microdot. that utter dissolution of reality was very scary. the last experience was almost 9 years ago and i went catatonic for hours afterwards my friends had to call my parents to pick me up because i wasn't moving or talking. at one point i felt i was wearing an aztec mask which had always been there, whether i was the mask or if not who was i? in fact the whole concept of "i" and the separation between "i" and the world no longer seemed to apply. i'm not comfortable burrowing that far into my psyche to be honest - but respect to those who find that fun.
after that i never took it again.
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I think first or second time I took acid at a friend's house I tried watching a bit of an early episode of Baywatch. It was completely boring.
Did enjoy watching stuff like those Frank Zappa plasticine animations and Robot Monster at an ATP festival once. But it's not really weird when you are expecting weird.
One distinct memory I have of seeing TV on acid is really noticing with horror for the first time how EVERY woman depicted on TV was a ridiculous caricature of "sexiness" with lips pouting and making sex-me eyes at the camera as if it was the gaze itself!
I saw this commercial for a really bad compilation of club hits and I was like "eww honey I don't want to fuck you go away" at every girl on it.
I don't know about the other suckabrains here, but I think microdots suck, especially in terms of quality if not strength of experience.
These were fucking strong compared to every other time (and other psychedelics). Tho of course Acid is as strong as you make it to some extent (ie- hyper-paranoia meant it set up a self-reinforcing feedback loop). Most other times on it I just used to get into rabid 10 hour arguments... always ending in someone in floods of tears and no-one speaking to each other afterwards.
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nomadologist
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that sounds like my experiences on it, even on half a microdot. that utter dissolution of reality was very scary. the last experience was almost 9 years ago and i went catatonic for hours afterwards my friends had to call my parents to pick me up because i wasn't moving or talking. at one point i felt i was wearing an aztec mask which had always been there, whether i was the mask or if not who was i? in fact the whole concept of "i" and the separation between "i" and the world no longer seemed to apply. i'm not comfortable burrowing that far into my psyche to be honest - but respect to those who find that fun.
after that i never took it again.
Oh you had what we call a "bad trip"--the "mask" experience is very common on these. I knew a girl who kept trying to "rip off the mask" was pulling at her face over and over. It's a form of psychosis. Of course, I know fools who actively TRY to get as far as you got on it, but they're fools. Don't take acid!!!
When I take mushrooms, I see aztec murals everywhere. The sky becomes one big 4-D aztec mural.
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These were fucking strong compared to every other time (and other psychedelics). Tho of course Acid is as strong as you make it to some extent (ie- hyper-paranoia meant it set up a self-reinforcing feedback loop). Most other times on it I just used to get into rabid 10 hour arguments... always ending in someone in floods of tears and no-one speaking to each other afterwards.
they're terrible, and I know "of" some of the people who make em, and I'm pretty sure it's just AMT nowadays anyway.
bassnation
the abyss
Oh you had what we call a "bad trip"--the "mask" experience is very common on these. I knew a girl who kept trying to "rip off the mask" was pulling at her face over and over. It's a form of psychosis. Of course, I know fools who actively TRY to get as far as you got on it, but they're fools. Don't take acid!!!
When I take mushrooms, I see aztec murals everywhere. The sky becomes one big 4-D aztec mural.
oh i know it was a bad one, problem is every time i took it, it seemed to go the same way, but that was the most extreme experience. i'm like gek, the kind of person who engineers bad trips for themselves. which is why e is innately superior - self realisation with a steady uncurrent of euphoria. fuck bad vibes.
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I get "bad trips" on e--heart palpitations, extreme irritability, panic attacks. So I finally realized I shouldn't ever take it.
Body chemistry is so mysterious eh?
Body chemistry is so mysterious eh?