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GhostofKinski

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mixed_biscuits said:
Could you explain why Israel would for no reason want to provoke Iran into adding to Israel's already formidable to-do list?
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Idk, and honestly, I don’t want to. I used to deal with psycho’s with the exact same mentality.
Why did you push that old lady in front of an oncoming train?
You don’t understand CO, it was me or her, she was looking at me funny
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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GhostofKinski said:
Idk, and honestly, I don’t want to. I used to deal with psycho’s with the exact same mentality.
Why did you push that old lady in front of an oncoming train?
You don’t understand CO, it was me or her, she was looking at me funny
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But we know for sure that not only has Iran been looking at Israel "funny" for a few decades but they also want to wipe them off the face of the planet and the nuclear weapons they are about to acquire would probably help with that. Your analogy falls somewhat short.
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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Every would-be analytical post by Hamas fans on here:

First paragraph: Israel is doing A because B and C and because if not A then D or E.
Second paragraph: Ackshually, Israel is doing it because they're totally like wacko like crazy baby-killing rabid dogs and Nazis maaaan.

The second paragraph always ruins the first paragraph.
 
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GhostofKinski

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mixed_biscuits said:
But we know for sure that not only has Iran been looking at Israel "funny" for a few decades but they also want to wipe them off the face of the planet and the nuclear weapons they are about to acquire would probably help with that. Your analogy falls somewhat short.
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You think you know, but you don’t.
The original quote by the Ayatollah was (paraphrasing) we will not rest until the Zionist regime in Palestine is wiped off the face of the earth.
Or something along those lines. Zionist is not synonymous with Judaism. In the U.S. the most fervent zionists are Christian’s evangelicals. I just saw a pro Israeli policy wonk who was asked to comment on the U.S. ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee (scouts honor ✋) statements, without knowing who had made the statement say “That was Hucksbee? I thought I was listening to a WB fanatic settler.”
Up until Netanyahu equated Israel with world Jewry and vice versa, over here when you heard/knew someone was Jewish, it just meant the religion they were brought up in.
In the Middle East Jew is a political term.
 
mixed_biscuits

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GhostofKinski said:
You think you know, but you don’t.
The original quote by the Ayatollah was (paraphrasing) we will not rest until the Zionist regime in Palestine is wiped off the face of the earth.
Or something along those lines. Zionist is not synonymous with Judaism. In the U.S. the most fervent zionists are Christian’s evangelicals. I just saw a pro Israeli policy wonk who was asked to comment on the U.S. ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee (scouts honor ✋) statements, without knowing who had made the statement say “That was Hucksbee? I thought I was listening to a WB fanatic settler.”
Up until Netanyahu equated Israel with world Jewry and vice versa, over here when you heard/knew someone was Jewish, it just meant the religion they were brought up in.
In the Middle East Jew is a political term.
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Some things for your to research:

1. History of Iranian rhetoric about Israel
2. History of references to Judaism in the countries surrounding Israel
3. Attitudes to Jews in Hamas statements and manifestos
4 History of conflict between Iran and Israel
5. History and actuality of funding received by Hamas from Iran
6. History of people seeing Jews as a race

I look forward to hearing from you in 6 months.
 
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GhostofKinski

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mixed_biscuits said:
Some things for your to research:

1. History of Iranian rhetoric about Israel
2. History of references to Judaism in the countries surrounding Israel
3. Attitudes to Jews in Hamas statements and manifestos
4 History of conflict between Iran and Israel
5. History and actuality of funding received by Hamas from Iran
6. History of people seeing Jews as a race

I look forward to hearing from you in 6 months.
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Here’s some things for you to research:
1. History of Israeli rhetoric about Iran.
2. History of references to Muslims in the surrounding countries by Israel.
3.attitudes to Hamas, the PA, PLO…by Israel and specifically Likud platform
4. History of conflict between Israel and Iran
5. History of people seeing all adherents of Islam as a monolithic billion strong amalek head choppers.

I look forward to hearing from you in 6 years
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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Iran says the gates of hell will open for Israel, but they have wiggle room as, being the "little Satan", they consider Israel technically already in hell.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
mixed_biscuits said:
The International Atomic Energy Agency says that Iran was within a few days of nuclear capability, and inflicting suffering that would dwarf recent events in the Middle East.
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You can't build a nuclear weapon in "a few days", you ridiculous little man.

The IAEA actually said this:

Early this morning, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was informed of the military operation launched by Israel which includes attacks on nuclear facilities in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

We are currently in contact with the Iranian nuclear safety authorities to ascertain the status of relevant nuclear facilities and to assess any wider impacts on nuclear safety and security. At present, the competent Iranian authorities have confirmed that the Natanz enrichment site has been impacted and that there are no elevated radiation levels. They have also reported that at present the Esfahan and Fordow sites have not been impacted.

This development is deeply concerning. I have repeatedly stated that nuclear facilities must never be attacked, regardless of the context or circumstances, as it could harm both people and the environment. Such attacks have serious implications for nuclear safety, security and safeguards, as well as regional and international peace and security.

In this regard, the IAEA recalls the numerous General Conference resolutions on the topic of military attacks against nuclear facilities, in particular, GC(XXIX)/RES/444 and GC(XXXIV)/RES/533, which provide, inter alia, that “any armed attack on and threat against nuclear facilities devoted to peaceful purposes constitutes a violation of the principles of the United Nations Charter, international law and the Statute of the Agency”.

Furthermore, the IAEA has consistently underlined that “armed attacks on nuclear facilities could result in radioactive releases with grave consequences within and beyond the boundaries of the State which has been attacked”, as was stated in GC(XXXIV)/RES/533.

As Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, and consistent with the objectives of the IAEA under the IAEA Statute, I call on all parties to exercise maximum restraint to avoid further escalation. I reiterate that any military action that jeopardizes the safety and security of nuclear facilities risks grave consequences for the people of Iran, the region, and beyond.

Yesterday, the Board of Governors adopted an important resolution on Iran’s safeguards obligations. In addition to this, the Board resolution stressed its support for a diplomatic solution to the problems posed by the Iranian nuclear programme.
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Statement on the situation in Iran | IAEA

Statement on the Situation in Iran by IAEA Director General, Rafael Mariano Grossi.
www.iaea.org www.iaea.org
 
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