Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...
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My biscuits have turned to mush
Mr. Tea
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I'm ignoring him now, but I'm just going to assume it's the same old rubbish as always.
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I'm ignoring him now, don't you know
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German Elites Are Redefining Antisemitism so They Can Be the Victims
On Monday, up to 1,000 artists and cultural workers protested in front of the Berlin parliament.
German elites have convinced themselves that they “get” antisemitism in a way that Jews simply can’t. They seem to have gained enlightenment through genocide. An example: When Der Spiegel did a bizarre takedown of Greta Thunberg, the only climate activist in the entire world they could find who didn’t support Palestine was Luisa Neubauer, a leader of Fridays for Future in Germany. Neubauer was ready to accuse the entire climate movement of antisemitism. How does she know? Is she particularly close to Jewish culture? Has she been a scholar of anti-Jewish discrimination? No, the only qualification she referred to is that her great-grandfather from the Reemtsma dynasty was an SS member who donated huge sums to the Nazi party. Inheriting a ton of money from Nazis seemingly offers a unique education in liberal humanist values.
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they never dealt with their past, in fact, all sorts of high ranking nazi families stayed in high positions after ww2. just the other day i stumbled upon this guy, which is exemplaric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen "Reinhard Gehlen (3 April 1902 – 8 June 1979) was a German career intelligence officer who served the Weimar Republic, Nazi Germany, the U.S. intelligence community, and the NATO-affiliated Federal Republic of Germany during the Cold War."
very interesting career path:
very interesting career path:
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Another excerpt from that article:
The talk of “hidden antisemitism” is a smokescreen for the deep-seated antisemitism of Germany’s elites. Let’s look at two more examples from the CDU. One of the early leaders of the CDU was Hans Globke, who in 1936 had helped author the Nazis’ Nuremberg Laws. CDU chief Konrad Adenauer protected numerous Nazi war criminals, including Globke. Until today, the party gets big piles of money from the Quandt family, the billionaire heirs of Nazi war criminals. In a very recent scandal, when Nazis and AfD members got together for a secret meeting to plan the “remigration” of millions of people, they were at a hotel owned by CDU member Wilhelm Wilderink, who has provided space for numerous far-right events.
The talk of “hidden antisemitism” is a smokescreen for the deep-seated antisemitism of Germany’s elites. Let’s look at two more examples from the CDU. One of the early leaders of the CDU was Hans Globke, who in 1936 had helped author the Nazis’ Nuremberg Laws. CDU chief Konrad Adenauer protected numerous Nazi war criminals, including Globke. Until today, the party gets big piles of money from the Quandt family, the billionaire heirs of Nazi war criminals. In a very recent scandal, when Nazis and AfD members got together for a secret meeting to plan the “remigration” of millions of people, they were at a hotel owned by CDU member Wilhelm Wilderink, who has provided space for numerous far-right events.
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I know that it's mainly a pureblood purity one-upmanship thing among those who are either inordinately lucky through no fault of their own or, if not, are funnily reluctant to go fully into their own families' histories to root out any skeletons leaning at inconvenient angles, but the practice of identifying young people with the beliefs and actions of their ancestors can, on the whole, only serve to establish the very links that are ostensibly disparaged...the former could be said to be a 'smokescreen' for the latter. In fact, no, it's simpler. The more deplorables there are out there the more special the person who disavows any connection to them.
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For the leftist political pureblood, having a clean family tree or one that can be scrubbed clean is the picture of privilege. They are the aristocrats of their political scene.
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Right, but do you expect people not to mention it? You're on tricky ground if you want to set yourself up as an arbiter of antisemitism and morality whilst benefiting from having inherited the wealth of prominent Nazis and using your position to support the killing of another group of people.
Mr. Tea
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These were the sorts of guys that the Baader-Meinhof lot went after, weren't they?they never dealt with their past, in fact, all sorts of high ranking nazi families stayed in high positions after ww2. just the other day i stumbled upon this guy, which is exemplaric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen "Reinhard Gehlen (3 April 1902 – 8 June 1979) was a German career intelligence officer who served the Weimar Republic, Nazi Germany, the U.S. intelligence community, and the NATO-affiliated Federal Republic of Germany during the Cold War."
very interesting career path:
Nazi Germany (1933–1945)
United States (1946–1956)
West Germany (1956–1968)
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One might be in that case (although you did have to widen the scope of your point to make it) but discrediting people for something in which they had no say is not reasonable and is especially dumb if it ends up handing them over to one's opposition.
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And yet they haven't required a ceasefire.
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The court is basically saying 'please carry on just don't overdo it'.
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