Russia Surrounded

Slothrop

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
vimothy said:
presumably both. but then it's still an open question as to what the overall effect will be (e.g., suppose the ppl become alienated from the regime, but that the regime is independent of them and still able to function due to the ready availability of petrodollar or exporter dollar flows).
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So I'd expect it to be relevant that some proportion of people who hold power in the regime are presumably pragmatists who like making money, and who are quite happy to have their cabal running a massive economy with very little accountability but fairly unhappy to have the smooth running of their business interests disrupted by a bout of misjudged ethno-nationalist expansionism and strongman posturing.

Fucked if I know whether this will be enough to bring down Putin or significantly alter his course, though.
 
luka

luka

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Slothrop said:
So I'd expect it to be relevant that some proportion of people who hold power in the regime are presumably pragmatists who like making money, and who are quite happy to have their cabal running a massive economy with very little accountability but fairly unhappy to have the smooth running of their business interests disrupted by a bout of misjudged ethno-nationalist expansionism and strongman posturing.

Fucked if I know whether this will be enough to bring down Putin or significantly alter his course, though.
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this was why craner said Putin will be gone before lambing season
 
luka

luka

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the heavies want the money to keep flowing. you know like in gangster films when they go, Paulie, killing is bad for business,
it's brings the heat down on us. that's craner's logic here.
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

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I think another strand of this is that after the pandemic, where things that were impossible happened, and where the normal attitude of 'they're making a big deal of this, nothing will happen / it will go back to normal soon enough' took a serious beating, a lot of people are a bit more open to the idea of extreme stuff happening. I can't be the only person who is daydreaming about nukes this week
 
Slothrop

Slothrop

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Although I feel like there's a bit of a flipside in that people are maybe less willing to settle for "no we can't do that because it's expensive and impractical" when it comes to sanctions?
 
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Beast of Burden
There are rumours that martial law is about to be imposed in Russia.

Also, an Estonian cargo ship has been sunk by a mine.
 
sus

sus

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luka said:
we've talked exhaustively about this though. everything is already mapped out. there's no position on the board you
haven't seen. twitter maps them all and encourages you to pick your square and start shouting. no one is going to
twist your melon.
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You haven't see anything, the discords Beiser and I hang in have pumped out takes you couldn't imagine... Perfume nationalist wet dreams, galaxy tier dialectical reversals, post apocalyptic bugout guides
 
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