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shakahislop
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spendo what do you think of :
i) the mars review of books
ii) n+1
i) the mars review of books
ii) n+1
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The Less Wrong style is the bitter end and must be abandoned.
Every LW essay is a simple diagram stretched out on a rack.
The only person who can write in that style is Scott Alexander - and that's because he ignores it.
Every LW essay is a simple diagram stretched out on a rack.
The only person who can write in that style is Scott Alexander - and that's because he ignores it.
sus
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I don't disagree, but what's the relevance here?
I don't read either tbh. I've tried to read n+1 in the past, and every once in a while there's good stuff but. There's a joke in Peli Grietzer's Amerikkkka like, "Thank god n+1 hasn't written a slam piece on the cultural politics of hard cider, so I can still drink in peace" and I think that basically sums it.
Mars Review of Books I haven't tried, I just assume it's bad, open to changing my mind but have yet to see anything interested posted from it
Clinamenic
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Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
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sus
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aye aye, thanks for asking
Clinamenic
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Hmm, maybe I won't visit you guys during the Clinamenic LLC londy tour.
He was so delighted by mvuent’s post, he didn’t even notice the emergency unfolding outside his window.
shakahislop
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i had a good time reading a copy of the drift from cover to cover recently, it was a good exercise to force myself to get through boring shit that i wouldn't normally click onto. someone had written a whole essay about jack antonoff, that was bad. there was an article about the current 'avant garde' which was great. did the same thing with some periodical called american short fiction. so picked up copies of n+1 and mars review of books to repeat the exercise.
there's something bigger than the brooklyn culture mafia which is the rich americans at universities mafia who seem to totally dominate this stuff. maybe obvious. but it is such a narrow band of people who get to write in these things. its one of the reasons why its so much easier to turn to reddit and other low quality but very democratic forms of writing i think.
vershy versh
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He was recently in The Face slagging off that lot:
He's probably right about Red Scare, but he sounds like an idiot too. No such thing as cynical music? 2000s NYC indie timeless?
shakahislop
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it's hard to find good writing about music in general. but that article was particularly boring. i didn't really know who he was to be honest, but i know he produces for lana del rey, who i think is doing something pretty special, so hard to write him off. dimes square is fascinating in that it doesn't really exist as a place in the same way as the LES or Williamsburg did. i mean it just doesn't. there's about 100 houses there, it's basically a junction. i go there almost every day now. there is absolutely nothing visible happening. there are some bars and some shops. if there is a scene for anything now it takes place online coz that's where the action is. which is why identifying some random geography is possible. coz the neighborhood signifiers have been dematerialised along with everything else. 2004 williamsburg i would have loved to be in i think, the photos from that time have this sense of possibility to them. something going on in terms of experimenting with how space can be used for music in particular, the start of the colonisation of formerly industrial areas (is there an earlier example of that?). it has proven really useful if you want to make a lot of noise to have loads and loads of industrial space. that's still going on in bushwick etc, all the clubs are there now, and it works because there are these massive areas which are just warehouses and industrial supplies. all of this at the expense of puerto ricans and dominicans and so on. everyone knows that but its good to keep saying it. but the music was pretty bad.
actually it was in the drift.
