thirdform

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Also how the hell am I homophobic when you called me a queer "groomer"? That's peak homophobia Mr. Thirdform.

are you implying that you have no intension of grooming? Eating pussy without asking is a surefire recipe to being metooed. Consent, baby, consent.

So yes, you may be a political queer, and also be a groomer of straight women. In fact your philosophy of acting can permit for such a dichotomy.
 

thirdform

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Right, but if there's anyone I want to "convert" its the people in the latter group, not the former. I want to change the minds of people trapped in a radical ideology of hate. As for the former group, those people I just want to build communal bonds with. Both groups share a common social isolation, which is the sociological phenomenon we need to address in order to help both groups make positive contributions to society. Why certain people on this forum have decided it's appropriate to socially isolate me by ignoring all my posts is mystery to me, especially given this board seems to be exclusively populated by socially isolated people. It just goes to show that I'm more socially isolated than most socially isolated people. So I should know a thing or two about social isolation.

your social isolation has nothing to do with your views but the way in which you present them. we thrashed this out on this forum before you showed up. here is your gospel, study it meticulously.

 

thirdform

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yeah Benny I've always liked reading your takes on books and music etc. but your recent(?) habit of posting some anecdote or one liner that's supposed to cast trans people in a bad light and then slinking away with a few laughter and eyeroll emojis when someone—usually padraig—tries to have an actual conversation with you is fucking annoying at best, unsettling at worst.

nah, he's been like this for a long time, biggest obsessive male feminist about eclipsing all champagne socialists put together, one really has to wonder what his motivations are, but hey... I wouldn't like to be presumptuous, so to speak...

And nah this isn't invitation to have a conversation, just be more of a proud man who doesn't wallow in self-hate, for god's sake, (as if women really need or require your anguished gimp white knighting) and givbe it a fucking rest!

Actually Benny B is anecdotal proof of how Malelesbians theory goes totally wrong, real life example. That is a conversation worth having, but malelesbian will deflect. No true scotsman, etc, etc.
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
Eating pussy without asking is a surefire recipe to being metooed. Consent, baby, consent.
Everyone knows I meant eating pussy without the girl needing to ask, which presupposes mutual consent. Women want their pussies ate, if they want me, I will eat their pussies without them needing to ask. I never said anything about eating anyone's pussy without their consent (how often does that even happen??)

Actually Benny B is anecdotal proof of how Malelesbians theory goes totally wrong, real life example. That is a conversation worth having, but malelesbian will deflect. No true scotsman, etc, etc.

Elaborate please.

Also, Thirdform, if my "presentation" is so bad, why argue against me? I'm not even good at arguing, but if it's an argument you want, it's an argument you'll get. If you want something else, ask for something else! Give some actual feedback.
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
Well damn I guess it happens a lot, my mistake. But once again I was talking about cases where a woman wants me to eat her pussy but she does not want to ask. And the majority of women I know want their pussies ate but they don't want to ask.
 

thirdform

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Also, Thirdform, if my "presentation" is so bad, why argue against me? I'm not even good at arguing, but if it's an argument you want, it's an argument you'll get. If you want something else, ask for something else! Give some actual feedback.

cos you're a boy toy. That's what you want right? demeaning and condescending argument through domination. So I am happy to oblige.
 

thirdform

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Well damn I guess it happens a lot, my mistake. But once again I was talking about cases where a woman wants me to eat her pussy but she does not want to ask. And the majority of women I know want their pussies ate but they don't want to ask.

Have you scientifically verified this, then? May you oblige me to play the role of gender auditor and investigate your reports? You see, you still haven't determined the gender of the gods of paperwork.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I've a strong suspicion that oral sex - or probably any kind of sex - is more enjoyable when you're doing because and you partner want to do it, rather than to make some kind of ideological point.
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
My ideological point that some men want to give women what they want. I'm not giving women what they want in order to make an ideological point. I enjoy romance, and hypermasculine culture fears me all the more for it.

It's true that some capitalist institutions are non-gendered. I'm just investigaing the institution that are gendered. Talk about laws and bureaucracy is besides the point of identity politics. Too many identity politikers think identity politics is the be all end all theory for all politics. This is a huge mistake, but Thirdform erroneously attributes this view to me. In fact, I argue that identity politics is necessarily partial: my doing identity politics doesn't necessarily entail my doing legal politics, political economy, Marxist or otherwise, or Rawlsian politics or any other kind of politics other than identity politics. All I'm trying to do here is make claims about identity politics, and I argue that these claims entail a subversion of the gender binary. Where is your subversion of the patriarchy, Thirdform sir? Oh that's right, you have none because you desparately cling to traditional conceptions of masculinity, like using homophobic insults to demean your opponents in argument. You also cling for dear life to traditional notions of male femininity as "demeaning and condescending". Obviously, male femininity is uplifting and empowering. Enough with the ad hominem attacks, attack my arguments, not me, the person.

But here's a little empirical test for you all: ask a woman you know whether she would rather have to ask to get her pussy ate or get her pussy ate without asking. I think we all know what the answer will be.

Edit: Male Lesbian theme song:

 

thirdform

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My ideological point that some men want to give women what they want. I'm not giving women what they want in order to make an ideological point. I enjoy romance, and hypermasculine culture fears me all the more for it.

It's true that some capitalist institutions are non-gendered. I'm just investigaing the institution that are gendered. Talk about laws and bureaucracy is besides the point of identity politics. Too many identity politikers think identity politics is the be all end all theory for all politics. This is a huge mistake, but Thirdform erroneously attributes this view to me. In fact, I argue that identity politics is necessarily partial: my doing identity politics doesn't necessarily entail my doing legal politics, political economy, Marxist or otherwise, or Rawlsian politics or any other kind of politics other than identity politics. All I'm trying to do here is make claims about identity politics, and I argue that these claims entail a subversion of the gender binary. Where is your subversion of the patriarchy, Thirdform sir? Oh that's right, you have none because you desparately cling to traditional conceptions of masculinity, like using homophobic insults to demean your opponents in argument. You also cling for dear life to traditional notions of male femininity as "demeaning and condescending". Obviously, male femininity is uplifting and empowering. Enough with the ad hominem attacks, attack my arguments, not me, the person.

But here's a little empirical test for you all: ask a woman you know whether she would rather have to ask to get her pussy ate or get her pussy ate without asking. I think we all know what the answer will be.

Edit: Male Lesbian theme song:


that's mistress thirdform to you, boy toy. behave yourself! methinks thou doth protest. let me poke you in the eye with my stiletto. and gag you.
 

thirdform

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the internet is full of the type of cissy porn you want. Even the ultra-masculine and racist torrents forum of 4chan has a million gods green bloodclot threads dedicated to fem dom. ever asked yourself why the manosphere exists boy toy? Oh wait, you haven't because you don't argue, you make vague statements then backpeddle with ad hominem when you get caught out. And what made you think that this is the forum to reach out to us? We're all a bunch of breakbeat loving alcoholics and coffee addicts, as if what the young boys are into concerns us a jot. As @luka said, noone of whatever gender and of whatever social pursuasion has fallen in love in the UK since 2000. Zero hour contract, baby!
noone wants to argue with a tedious troll like yourself, so give up the concerned act and register for p0rn0lab dot net. Not my fault zoomers don't know how to torrent is it!
 

thirdform

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and yes, you should do political economy. the manosphere expresses the interests of the disintegrating petit-bourgeoisie. It's the secular version of the deep south christian nutcase. Hence why neither can accept change, because, ultimately, their class is dissolved the more capital centralises.
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
the internet is full of the type of cissy porn you want. Even the ultra-masculine and racist torrents forum of 4chan has a million gods green bloodclot threads dedicated to fem dom. ever asked yourself why the manosphere exists boy toy? Oh wait, you haven't because you don't argue, you make vague statements then backpeddle with ad hominem when you get caught out. And what made you think that this is the forum to reach out to us? We're all a bunch of breakbeat loving alcoholics and coffee addicts, as if what the young boys are into concerns us a jot.

noone wants to argue with a tedious troll like yourself, so give up the concerned act ffs.
I know why the manosphere exists. It exists because emasculation is a part of the modern experience. I just think that emasculation is a good thing.

For the record, the male lesbian-female pervert fantasy has never been represented by porn, femdom or otherwise. The people running the porn industry know that they portray traditional, masculine, dominant males and feminine submissive woman. You never see a situation where both partners are feminine and dominant, and one is male and the other female, for example. But what I really want is a scenario where both partners alternate between dominance and submission. And that you'll never find in porn.
 
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