The Feminine Perspective against the Manosphere

[malelesbian]

If indeed America is in need of counter-culture, then why have all American counter-cultures in the past, be them hippie, punk, or goth, ended up fetishising the most reactionary, libertarian right? What innoculates your malelesbianism against this?

Nothing does. Previous countercultures abandoned their values because the leaders behind them got rich. If I get rich, I risk compromising my values too. That's why I promote democratic socialism, to take power away from the rich.

And you posted the Bordiga quote before and I still don't buy it. An unrevisable theory is an unscientific one.

 

[luka]

such a spirit sapping joyless thread, like the feeling of having 'overwanked' depleted sac

 

[thirdform]

And you posted the Bordiga quote before and I still don't buy it. An unrevisable theory is an unscientific one.

not true, it's just not popular science.

Butler, for instance, like their teacher foucault, endlessly revises Marx and thus enters the realm of secular hermeneutics and exegesis. No observant Jew or muslim, who grew up with Midrash or tafsir, can find anything novel in Butlers project. In fact tafsir is very old, invariably so. All B and F do is try to make it palatable to atheists. This is why I asked you to research John Duns Scotus, but like the impudent brat you are, you refused to do so. Another truth of marxism for you:

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When Marx said in his famous “Theses on Feuerbach” that the philosophers had interpreted the world enough and that now we have to transform the world, he was not saying that the transformative will conditions the fact of the transformation, but that first comes the transformation determined by the clash of collective forces, and only later the critical consciousness of this transformation in individual subjects. The latter do not act by virtue of a decision arrived at by each individual, but from influences that precede knowledge and consciousness.
The passage from the arms of critique to the critique of arms precisely shifts the entirety of the thinking subject to the militant masses, in such a manner that not only rifles and cannons are weapons, but above all that real instrument that is the common doctrine of the party, uniform, monolithic, and invariable, to which we are all subordinated and bound, putting an end to all chattering and know-it-all discussions.

I ask again: is John Duns Scotus a male Lesbian? Yes or no.

 

[thirdform]

such a spirit sapping joyless thread, like the feeling of having 'overwanked' depleted sac

yeah, you don't need to brag about inventing post-dubstep and malelesbian. submit to the borg, abolish your individuality!

 

[thirdform]

Nothing does. Previous countercultures abandoned their values because the leaders behind them got rich. If I get rich, I risk compromising my values too. That's why I promote democratic socialism, to take power away from the rich.

I pray to allah you get rich soon and then you shall finally realise that democratic socialism is a contradiction in terms, because the fetishisation of the rich which is archetypical democracy, by denying the violence of the contending classes and reducing the electorate to an amorphous mass, is baked into bourgeois social relations, and can only be avoided by slummers (I.E: those who have already inherited family wealth.) The true democrat such as yourself defends the right to starve to death, this much is incontestable, by rejecting a global social allocation of goods in kind, I.E: a dictatorship of consumption. What you want is commodity exchange without its horrors, but you fail to acknowledge that these horrors arise from commodity exchange, are not appended to from without. In other words, taxing the rich will still only build up a war machine.

 

[malelesbian]

Butler, for instance, like their teacher foucault, endlessly revises Marx and thus enters the realm of secular hermeneutics and exegesis.

I think Butler and Foucault are compatible with Marxism. You've never given me a reason why they aren't. Also, I know nothing about theology and never made any theological claims. We best interpret culture by understanding it. We don't need additional scientific or religious elements.

 

[malelesbian]

I pray to allah you get rich soon and then you shall finally realise that democratic socialism is a contradiction in terms, because the fetishisation of the rich which is archetypical democracy, by denying the violence of the contending classes and reducing the electorate to an amorphous mass, is baked into bourgeois social relations, and can only be avoided by slummers (I.E: those who have already inherited family wealth.)

I disagree, but this is interesting, say more.

Also, for the record, I invented mumble rap.

 

[thirdform]

I think Butler and Foucault are compatible with Marxism. You've never given me a reason why they aren't. Also, I know nothing about theology and never made any theological claims. We best interpret culture by understanding it. We don't need additional scientific or religious elements.

on the contrary, theology corresponds to definite tributary social relations which your ancestors genocided out of America by massacring the red race. In other parts of the world which have only just capitalised in the last 100 years, it is still a very serious matter indeed. Don't mistake your brooklyn cultural mafia social scene for the alpha and omega of culture.

I have no interest in compatibility, I am more interested in corrosion. A true understanding of marxism dissolves these bourgeois theorists as being so. I am not eisenhower.

 

[thirdform]

I disagree, but this is interesting, say more.

I did to my appended post but I shall reiterate:

The true democrat such as yourself defends the right to starve to death, this much is incontestable, by rejecting a global social allocation of goods in kind, I.E: a dictatorship of consumption. What you want is commodity exchange without its horrors, but you fail to acknowledge that these horrors arise from commodity exchange, are not appended to from without. In other words, taxing the rich will still only build up a war machine. All democrats fail to understand that capitalism suppresses the freedom of the producer by divorcing her from her means of production. In this sense, free labour is a question of legal contract, it is, paradoxically, freedom from the land, not the freedom to be granted work at all times. And hence it is dialectically progressive and regressive simultaneously.

Progressive relative to tributary and feudal relationships to the landlords, regressive in terms of the anticipated communist society.

 

[malelesbian]

I did to my appended post but I shall reiterate:

The true democrat such as yourself defends the right to starve to death, this much is incontestable, by rejecting a global social allocation of goods in kind, I.E: a dictatorship of consumption. What you want is commodity exchange without its horrors, but you fail to acknowledge that these horrors arise from commodity exchange, are not appended to from without. In other words, taxing the rich will still only build up a war machine. All democrats fail to understand that capitalism suppresses the freedom of the producer by divorcing her from her means of production. In this sense, free labour is a question of legal contract, it is, paradoxically, freedom from the land, not the freedom to be granted work at all times. And hence it is dialectically progressive and regressive simultaneously.

Progressive relative to tributary and feudal relationships to the landlords, regressive in terms of the anticipated communist society.

I think it's a reasonable request for the US government to both increase taxes on the rich and decrease the military budget.

 

[malelesbian]

ban all porn and this problem is fixed.



Yes, we know that the male lesbian is structurally homophobic. Not that it particularly bothers me, I do not think in such bourgeois categories and don't care to argue with redditers who can't rationalise their love for fem dom. Although I think you'll find many women hate it, but anyway...
Penis, don't be afraid.
Penis Street.
Step into Penis.
Freak (penis trash)

Also I find it funny that Thirdform doesn't know I was quoting Zardoz

 

[thirdform]

I think it's a reasonable request for the US government to both increase taxes on the rich and decrease the military budget.

reasonable it may be, but it is still cloud coocoo land. The ruling class does not rule according to its amalgamated collective wish like the social contract theorists suppose, but rule (more or less unconsciously) necessary to the maintenance of the capitalist state. A ruling class which ruled by ideological consent alone could be easily won over to socialism. In fact the final clash will be much bloodier than this, precisely because bourgeois hegemony is impersonal and unconscious.

 

[malelesbian]

Also how the hell am I homophobic when you called me a queer "groomer"? That's peak homophobia Mr. Thirdform.

 

[luka]

well you have come onto a noted incel forum with the intent purpose of converting incels into 'cissies'

 

[Mr. Tea]

well you have come onto a noted incel forum with the intent purpose of converting incels into 'cissies'

Putting the 'cis' into 'cissy', as it were.

 

[malelesbian]

well you have come onto a noted incel forum with the intent purpose of converting incels into 'cissies'

Is this really an incel forum though? I'll leave this forum if it is.

 

[luka]

yes, it has been an incel forum from conception. i assumed that was why you were here? if your whole mission is to reach out to them and convert them. weird.

 

[malelesbian]

yes, it has been an incel forum from conception. i assumed that was why you were here? if your whole mission is to reach out to them and convert them. weird.

Nah dude, I didn't want to convert people. I just wanted a community to accept me for who I am. Where's the evidence that this has been an incel forum from the beginning? Especially considering that incel forums weren't really a thing when this forum started...

 

[luka]

the word incel hadnt been invented but there have been people who were incels from the dawn of ages

 

[malelesbian]

the word incel hadnt been invented but there have been people who were incels from the dawn of ages

Yes but an incel forum has to spread incel ideology and radicalize people. I don't see that happening here.