I have never used it to mean anything other than a feminine man. If you're using it describe something additional, that's your problem.The term sissy does not just mean "feminine man."
No my use of the term "lesbian" just means a man who loves a woman like a woman does.Next you're just gonna tell me you're from the isle of Lesbos, eh?
Comes originally from prison culture, doesn't it? Or has a very strong connotation of that sort, anyway.The term sissy does not just mean "feminine man."
If you really care about this sort of thing, just replace all instances of the word "sissy" with the phrase "Feminine man". It's easy!Comes originally from prison culture, doesn't it? Or has a very strong connotation of that sort, anyway.
Multiple different people have directly said it multiple timesAnd just to remind you all, for all the talk about my argument resting on false premises, no one has said what the particular false premises were.
Multiple different people have directly said it multiple times
Since the associations don't matter at all, and there's no problem with the word replacement, I'll be referring to you from here out as "male heterosexual man."If you really care about this sort of thing, just replace all instances of the word "sissy" with the phrase "Feminine man". It's easy!
I know but he clearly means well so I thought, why not try one last timesome people arent really capable of dialogue. theyve got a fixed idea and youll never budge it. in those cases pisstaking tends to be more helpful than sincere engagement
I know right that was particularly crazy, from someone who's like entire thing is the semiotics of genderSince the associations don't matter at all, and there's no problem with the word replacement, I'll be referring to you from here out as "male heterosexual man."
No one gave counterexamples. No one gave criteria or definitions different from mine. How do you fight the patriarchy? That is the point of this thread. Not silly infighting.Alrite, I've been sucked in one last time bc this absolute untruth can't just stand
This dude clearly means well, so let me try one last time to get thru
Multiple different people have directly said it multiple times
Reducing all human culture - or more accurately, behavior (culture being a byproduct of behavior) - to masculine or feminine. That is your false premise. You say you're not doing that, but literally in the same post you're including the totality of human culture in either masculinity or the negation of masculinity (which you call femininity). Anytime anyone questions that premise or offers counterexamples you say "your examples don't count bc they don't fit my arbitrary parameters" (but yunno, expressed in abstruse PhD word salad). While you yourself otoh don't have to give any precise definitions or criteria, just handwave "society" or x other abstraction.
Anyone anywhere who rejects or subverts or critiques (you don't even need to subvert them! just be aware of and try to refute the toxic elements) the restrictions of "traditional" gender constructs and roles in any way is resisting the patriarchy. Those are the specific behaviors you keep demanding. It doesn't require rejecting traditional masculinity (or femininity) either, unless you specifically define traditional masculinity as only the toxic elements thereof - in which case you've created a tautology, i.e "the things that are bad are bad bc I dislike them and I dislike them bc they're bad". There are more ways in heaven and earth to resist the patriarchy than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That's as simple and direct as I can make it. If you can't grasp that critique, well, I tried.
Well I tried yallNo one gave counterexamples. No one gave criteria or definitions different from mine. How do you fight the patriarchy? That is the point of this thread. Not silly infighting.
I never reduced all behavior to gendered behavior. I said that mainstream patriarchal culture tends to depict itself as the only game in town, but this is a deception. What I said was, I know no non-gendered behavior that fights the patriarchy. No one provided any examples of such non-gendered behavior.
Again, I never said fighting the patriarchy requires rejecting traditional gender roles. I said rejecting traditional gender roles is an effective way of fighting the patriarchy. If you agree that defying traditional gender roles and men acting feminine succeed in fighting the patriarchy, then you agree with me. If not, then please provide a critique. Tell us why men acting feminine fails to fight the patriarchy. Otherwise, there's no disagreement. Depictions of my view as reductionist are merely uncharitable.
So you're denying that I am feminine. Very charitable. /s Notice how you're so eager to eliminate femininity from my personality? Guess its just more patriarchal repression...Since the associations don't matter at all, and there's no problem with the word replacement, I'll be referring to you from here out as "male heterosexual man."
Have a wank while watching some really right-on feminist porn.So you're denying that I am feminine. Very charitable. /s
Im still waiting for this fabled, mythical non-gendered behavior that fights the patriarchy. Since no one has given any examples, I'll keep waiting.