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[nomadologist]

Hawaii would be a fun place to trip, so beautiful.

Although I really love roaming the industrial park right next to my neighborhood and really feeling the future ghostiness of it all, the abandoned lofts in disrepair, the lived-in lofts with really elaborated design elements that you can see from the street. The really good tags. Especially around Christmas when there are lights up on apartment buildings , stuff like that.

 

[gek-opel]

You seriously need to do them in a secure environment tho. Even more than LSD I reckon... the time dilation and hyper social sensitivity is a recipe for disaster in say a pub.

 

[nomadologist]

Oh yeah, I never go to bars or clubs on acid, just walk around with friends.

On New Years last year we dropped my caped friend off at a huge loft party in W-burg at a certain point, and he said that the paramedics were called because a girl no one knew or invited was found passed out on the bathroom floor undressed and people were afraid she'd been assualted. He called really shook.

Sigh. People suck.

 

[gek-opel]

Sigh. People suck.

They sure do (sometimes).

 

[swears]

I think what's sad is when people use drugs to excuse feeling/thinking/acting differently from their usual behaviour.

eg: Showing affection to their friends because they're on E, sleeping with someone because they're drunk, having "mad" thoughts because they were on acid, etc, etc...

I'm not knocking drug taking, just the fact that people are ashamed of doing these things in the first place, and then rationalising their actions later.

 

[Gabba Flamenco Crossover]

I'm loving some of Gek's responses on this.

SCENE: 3AM, at a rave. A dealer approaches.

DEALER: "Get some of these in you, man. They literally manifest Foucauldian power discourses as vector patterns."

RAVER: "Blinding! There is certainly jouissance in unpleasantness!"

 

[nomadologist]

I think what's sad is when people use drugs to excuse feeling/thinking/acting differently from their usual behaviour.

eg: Showing affection to their friends because they're on E, sleeping with someone because they're drunk, having "mad" thoughts because they were on acid, etc, etc...

I'm not knocking drug taking, just the fact that people are ashamed of doing these things in the first place, and then rationalising their actions later.

I know what you mean--I hate hate hate it when someone "accidentally" slept with someone because they were drunk. It's like, no, you wanted to fuck them, so once you were drunk you REALLY wanted to fuck them. It's like when Mel Gibson said all those anti-Semitic remarks and then tried to blame alcoholism for it! As if a bottle of Jim Beam plants thoughts like "Jews are Jesus-killers" in your head.

And I'm obviously not ashamed of drug-taking or of being touchy with my friends when I'm fucked up. People need touching, and usually have a hard time giving or getting it with people they're not fucking, unless they are able to get rid of some of the more repressive inhibitions. That's one of the best things about drugs, imo, you can unselfconsciously get the sort of human contact you need and it doesn't have to be sexual per se. Or at least, polymorphous perversity becomes less of a "sin" when you're on drugs, and you let yourself get what you really need sexually, which is more than just intercourse.

 

[gek-opel]

I'm loving some of Gek's responses on this.

SCENE: 3AM, at a rave. A dealer approaches.

DEALER: "Get some of these in you, man. They literally manifest Foucauldian power discourses as vector patterns."

RAVER: "Blinding! There is certainly jouissance in unpleasantness!"

Hahahah- oh how I would have LOVED that!

"Pills, trips, shrooms, transcendental Cthulthu-esque sublime horror..."

 

[Gabba Flamenco Crossover]

When I take mushrooms, I see aztec murals everywhere. The sky becomes one big 4-D aztec mural.

I get lots of reptilian imagery on shrooms. Mud starts to look like tough crocodile/lizard hide. I once saw a wet road turn into a river of snakes, that was fun.

 

[vimothy]

That is the thing tho- the idea of a perfect moment of absolute horror (ie- the inhuman sublime) has a great appeal to me- not misery or "darkness" per se but totally inhuman awe and terror. If God is real (and its not) then it would be manifested as this as it passes through the human domain... and hence it fulfilled an almost mystical function, outside of anything warm or reassuring. "Enjoyable" in the same way as Guernica or a documentary on the holocaust or "the electrician" by Scott Walker... sublime horror... like a confrontation with the real itself.

Agree with this and recommend DMT pipes - total fear.

 

[noel emits]

eg: Showing affection to their friends because they're on E, sleeping with someone because they're drunk, having "mad" thoughts because they were on acid, etc, etc...

Using K as an excuse to stumble into people and dip your dreadlocks in their drinks.

 

[Mr. Tea]

And the hippies take the lead from the ravers! Ravers in second place now, dope fiends in third, cokeheads and k-holers trailing miserably...

Edit: actually, "k-holers trailing miserably" has quite a nice ring to it.

 

[gek-opel]

I think what's sad is when people use drugs to excuse feeling/thinking/acting differently from their usual behaviour.

eg: Showing affection to their friends because they're on E, sleeping with someone because they're drunk, having "mad" thoughts because they were on acid, etc, etc...

I'm not knocking drug taking, just the fact that people are ashamed of doing these things in the first place, and then rationalising their actions later.

Another friend of mine spent his whole time on E deliberately preventing himself from getting high so as he could "enjoy the comedown".

I agree though that a prime functionality is as a demarcated zone where certain behaviours become legitimated- a bit like 18-30 style holidays.

 

[nomadologist]

I get lots of reptilian imagery on shrooms. Mud starts to look like tough crocodile/lizard hide. I once saw a wet road turn into a river of snakes, that was fun.

Yeah, lots of "snakes" for me, too! My own skin looks sort of clay-like, I guess "reptilian" is a good word, seems to start exhale moisture or something.

 

[gek-opel]

And the hippies take the lead from the ravers! Ravers in second place now, dope fiends in third, cokeheads and k-holers trailing miserably...

The drug derby?

 

[Mr. Tea]

Hahahah- oh how I woud have LOVED that!

"Pills, trips, shrooms, transcendental Cthulthu-esque sublime horror..."

Reminds me of this: "even Aztecs have bad trips"...

I love the skull face and gnarley fingernails, about to tap the guy on the shoulder - sums up the creeping existential horror of a bad trip very nicely, I think.

 

[nomadologist]

Using K as an excuse to stumble into people and dip your dreadlocks in their drinks.

roffle

 

[gek-opel]

Agree with this and recommend DMT pipes - total fear.

Back in the day this was high on the list. Dunno if I can necessarily be arsed anymore though...

 

[bassnation]

I think what's sad is when people use drugs to excuse feeling/thinking/acting differently from their usual behaviour.

eg: Showing affection to their friends because they're on E, sleeping with someone because they're drunk, having "mad" thoughts because they were on acid, etc, etc...

I'm not knocking drug taking, just the fact that people are ashamed of doing these things in the first place, and then rationalising their actions later.

well i am of the believe that its all in there already. i never said anything to anyone on e that i didn't mean or wouldn't have said anyway. it uncovered feelings that were always present and allowed me to see my own motivations much more clearly - but didn't make me do something false or insincere. and of course people are going to act different to some degree - there would be no point in spending cash on it otherwise.

 

[gek-opel]

Reminds me of this: "even Aztecs have bad trips"...

I love the skull face and gnarley fingernails, about to tap the guy on the shoulder - sums up the utter existential horror of a bad trip very nicely, I think.

That is brilliant. The learing devil's face especially... its like a D.A.R.E ad 500 years earlier...