Can you define the reasons why he sticks out, why his sound is so British etc..
Probablly not in any meaningfull way, if I could maybe I'd be able to turn a trick or two as a music writer guy. Anyway, there is something in the low end that American Deep House producers don't do. They don't run the sub so hard & clipped, I assume its too dirty for them - might have something to do with US soundsystems vs. UK soundsystems, whereas UK tunes will always have that mattress of sub, that heavily low pass filtered & +10EQ bass sound. It sounds differant over a system & in the mix. Doubtless there are examples that criss-cross, but as a general rule of thumb I think it pans out.
you see I don't understand why you guys are so keen to aggressivley defend it!
As much as it may not have been your intention, there was def. a hint of insinuation. I'm the first to admit you know allot more about house music than me, but I still know a tune when I hear one.
The only thing I will aggressivley defend is a theme running thru certain attitudes that House & 4x4 = bad - the 'its Just House' attitude. Which is bollox.
It seems to me your confusion lay, at least in part, to not understanding why people like tunes you think are 'meh' fair enough, from what I've heard of the dj sprinkles stuff mentioned in the "House '09" thread I had that same thing for about 5secs. I don't really give any thought after that tbh. Differant strokes.
my definition of funky and as i understand it from seeing djs play out as i mentioned a couple of posts below is that funkys a mish mash of house styles. Rather than defined by havig ex grime mcs or whatever.
fairplay, to me, I'm not going to lump people in together if they don't lump themselves in together with them, from what I can tell, Circle & the dubbage tag is a deliberate move to distance themselves from 'the funky thing'
I think the AVH connection you mention is an important one, his was always a really omnivorous view of House Music, I think there may even be an argument to be made for a distinction between house producers that sample & those that don't. To me the boring stuff is almost always connected with the 'I write / make all my music by hand maaannnn' attitude.
minimalism always sorta fizzles out in the end tho doesn't it?