mixed_biscuits
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So you don't feel able to answer the question?
Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...
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Have to say though if youre not from a zionist jewish family that does seem weird to me. The points you make are often made by people who were indoctrinated in zionist propaganda from an early age. I sympathise with those people. But if you don't have that kind of emotional tie with no threat of identity crisis that would result from admitting the truth, and are still just lapping up ridiculous propaganda... that is quite odd.
Or maybe youre just basing your opinions on arguments and online forums rather than looking through sources yourself? I dont know
Or maybe youre just basing your opinions on arguments and online forums rather than looking through sources yourself? I dont know
mixed_biscuits
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My news sources are this thread and The Times in hard copy. The latter is more credible and somewhat more measured; there is some drift in opinion in The Times towards this thread's stance but it certainly hasn't been bedded in yet.
mixed_biscuits
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@malelesbian, what do you think about this situation?
vimothy
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the vice versa is that Israeli aims are as inimical to the interests of the Palestinians as hamas--which you agreed with, upthread. arguing otherwise is unhinged. the interests of the Palestinians are obviously not best served by their annihilation by israel, surely
mixed_biscuits
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Yes, that's why Hamas should surrender.
mixed_biscuits
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Israel will stop trying to make them surrender.
mixed_biscuits
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How is that going to get rid of Hamas who you said are bad for the Palestinians?
Mr. Tea
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I'm not saying this makes the claims about the IDF untrue, but Max Blumenthal is an opportunistic, grifting scumbag who (for the last several years, at least) has been about as trustworthy a source of information as Alex Jones.
mixed_biscuits
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a) Hamas will just have more power through which to oppress the Palestinians and
b) I'm not sure whether you want to consider Israeli lives but, seeing as Hamas are more genocidally inclined, an Israeli capitulation would probably result in wholesale slaughter.
Mr. Tea
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It's been Israel that's been keeping Hamas in power for the last decade and a half, as has been repeatedly mentioned.
mixed_biscuits
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Irrelevant! If your neighbour has thrown a rabid dog into your back garden is the first thing on your to do list to tranquilise the dog or tranquilise the neighbour?