The closest we got was a guy passing out platitudes about how we should be nice to women and date them. Too bad he forgot that incels don't date women.
This isn't what I said. You can hang out with a woman and make dinner together without it being a date. It's called "being friends."
I'd say that's a correct characterization of incels, but I'm trying to use love to reach incels. I promote feminine culture, a feminist alternative to incel culture. My question is, how do we get incels to re-direct their pain to turn it against the patriarchy?
The question that I have been repeatedly asking, and getting stonewalled on, is this: why are you so insistent that the only option is a redirection of pain? Why couldn't we take actions that cure the pain instead? You seem to believe either that this pain needs to exist, that it's natural and unavoidable, or that people have a moral obligation to experience it so as to motivate positive political action.
I don't think this pain needs to exist, and I think there are concrete actions that could be taken that would lessen it. I do not understand why this isn't seen as a real proposal by you, or why you have repeatedly claimed I have provided no suggestions when I have been very clear about this.
The patriarchy is masculine culture, I don't see why anyone would deny that.
This is not what patriarchy is. Patriarchy is a complex, interlocking system, it contains perhaps as many women as men, it relies on cooperation from all parties everyone to continue its smooth functioning.